Hardwood cuttings question.

[synergy]

I am sort of hopeful my concord grape cuttings are going to root now my grape vine shipment from the states to Canada from a friend was turned away by the testing facility. I just could use a few more encouraging successes than fails right now. I planted chestnuts late last fall and no shoots yet . I am going to keep trying .

[mnjrutherford]

CRAP! I changed https to http.... Are you seeing the picture? All I see is the word "image" in brackets... Don't have time to figure this out right now, but I do want you to see (if possible) my results because I need advice on what to do next.


THIS is what it looked like when we first opened the bucket.


These are the bundles of scions as I pulled them out.

Since we are at it, how about some grapes?








The top 2 are an unknown variety, the bottom 2 are Flame Tokay. All were started in the more "traditional" manner, right side up and covered only with straw. Next year, may do it differently?

And, just to brag a we bit, something from down under....

[davida]

Apr 18, 2013 12:20:57 GMT -5 mnjrutherford said:

Are you seeing the picture?

Nope. Just seeing the word image. Sure would like to see your pictures!!I need to learn.

[mnjrutherford]

Gracious! That drove me to strong language! I believe I began to "dew".... ::rolls eyes dramatically::

[mnjrutherford]

Apr 18, 2013 12:07:01 GMT -5 synergy said:

I am sort of hopeful my concord grape cuttings are going to root now my grape vine shipment from the states to Canada from a friend was turned away by the testing facility. I just could use a few more encouraging successes than fails right now. I planted chestnuts late last fall and no shoots yet . I am going to keep trying .

Stay encouraged with those chestnuts! It will be awhile before they break ground!!!

[steev]

I regret my eyes are no longer good enough to see much in such small photos.

[mnjrutherford]

I was wondering if there was a way I could enlarge them. They are small... but... at least they are there!!!! For me that's nearly a miracle.

[steev]

It's a start. I don't claim even that expertize.

[Deleted]

Unless you live in a deep, dark valley, or on a totally-open parcel, there are different microclimates on every property.

This person has snow cover, is trying to keep his warm.

One set of my Prunus cuttings had budded-out, for weeks, but lost leaves during one day of warm wind.

If you live in a semi-arid area, these need to be very sheltered and cool, to survive.

[mnjrutherford]

I was thinking of that very thing. What I'm thinking of doing is burying 4 more buckets, one for each variety, then filling 4" pots with Bacto, inserting the cuttings JUST to the first bud, then placing them in the buried pots. I would fill out the pots with straw, then water well.

The idea being just that, keep them cool, moist, and away from excessive light. They are between the house and driveway. Next to the driveway is a raised bed with some large plants so it is mostly shady in this area. We DID have one day when it got up to 80, but we are wearing jackets again and have been for several days now.

At the moment, they are back in the bucket so they were protected on the warm day. But there is no lid and maybe I should just fill it with straw and leave them as they are? How long should it take for roots to develop?

[Deleted]

I can see different situations, even within the same planter, where shaded hardwood cuttings survived, and unshaded ones died.

There was more flexibility when skies were grayer.

Yet, there was no growth until the weather started to get warm.

There is an optimum date and temperature range, here.

[mnjrutherford]

Yesterday I finally had time to work with my hazelnuts. I decided to put them in 4" pots with Bacto. The bag had been opened and it got a good wetting so I was able to really pack it into the pot and around the stems. I sunk the twigs to to base of the second node. I packed the pots into trays sitting on Bermuda straw. Next, I covered them entirely with a blanket of the straw and watered the straw. Not all of the buds were leafing out, it varied according to type. They are next to a raised bed and the west facing side of the house is just 10' away so there should be nothing much in the way of wind, they will be well watered, and the rain won't hit them hard enough to lay them down or otherwise squash them.

I am SO hoping these babies survive!

[raymondo]

Pictures look good but like steev, my eyes aren't up to distinguishing much. Were there roots on the hazel scions? Or callusing? Some at least look to be budding out. Is that the case? If your hazels don't take, get hold of some raw nuts and try sprouting them. Can't see why that wouldn't work.

The grapes look fine. Why do it differently? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

And the last pic warmed the cockles of my heart!

[mnjrutherford]

The photos make me mad! I confess, I can barely see them myself... but what else to do? ... Try this: picasaweb.google.com/mnjrutherford/Apr182013?authkey=Gv1sRgCKCSq5rnuJSWFw

That's a link to the album page. In the upper right corner there is a slide thingy that allows you to make the photos a bit larger. Perhaps this will work?

As for "callousing" I really can't say if they were or not because I really don't know what it looks like in these terms. HOWEVER, the Daviana had the largest diameter twigs and as I was brushing them off to put them into the new pots I noticed yellow green "stuff" around the edges of the cut. I am hoping that was root development.

The others were quite a bit smaller and thought I examined them as well, I did not notice anything so obvious about them.

I thought you might enjoy that last photo! ;D I confess, I am excited anew this year because we are growing more than just food and medicine. I've added a couple of dahlias and an amaryllis to a new "garden" area we are developing at the front of the house. A butterfly bush will be the main feature, but we haven't found the right one just yet. I'll need to get a LOT more parsley seed for our anticipated visitors.

[raymondo]

The link worked. Was able to get a good look. No sign of callusing that I could see. They are all budding up though. Important to keep them cool until root formation is obvious. If it were me, I'd have two nodes buried.
Fingers crossed that you get some to take.