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Post by reed on Aug 11, 2015 8:05:51 GMT -5
I am terrible at record keeping but Fortex was the first beans we ate this year except for Kwintus. As far as keeping pure I think the notion they don't easily cross may not be safe to count on. I'v been watching closer this year than ever before and the beans got lots of visits from bumblebees and even hummingbirds. I didn't grow any Rattlesnake or Blue Lake this year. I wish I had grown lots more Fortex as we liked them so much we ate most of them. It has probably been a month or more since we ate the last of them and the ones left for seed are filled out pretty good but still green. I wish they would hurry up and start to dry.
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Post by templeton on Aug 11, 2015 16:17:30 GMT -5
thanks reed.
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Post by kyredneck on Sept 13, 2015 14:09:41 GMT -5
My f2 beans, as expected, are showing a fair amount of diversity. Round, flat, short, long and everything in between.... I have a favorite as of now. It is long like fortex, but somewhat wider. I hope to be able to post some pictures, and comment on flavor soon. Have you tried any of the 'full beans' as snaps? I'm dying to know if the pod remained tender at maturity. |
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Post by jondear on Sept 13, 2015 14:21:58 GMT -5
I did cook a very few ky, but didn't try them too mature. I saved seed for the very best snap from one plant all by it self. It was a flatish one, maybe 5/8 of an inch wide, around 9 inches long, and straight except for the very tip. I let the rest go to seed only to see if there would be a good shelly or dry bean in the bunch. The best candidate for shellys had a gray color to them. So I let them go to dry beans. As a group, they are 50 shades of earth tones. The first two picks (about a pound) are for seed, the rest are going to be used in soup.
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Post by kyredneck on Sept 13, 2015 14:31:40 GMT -5
I did cook a very few ky, but didn't try them too mature. I saved seed for the very best snap from one plant all by it self. It was a flatish one, maybe 5/8 of an inch wide, around 9 inches long, and straight except for the very tip..... Thanks Fred.  Kwintus and Fortex are two of my favorites I've grown in the past and a cross that combines the good traits of both makes me want some seed, maybe later. (hint, hint)
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Post by jondear on Sept 13, 2015 14:39:49 GMT -5
Lol I think that's the second time...
I've got plenty of the F2 and bulked f3 seed if you want some for next year. I'd like to bulk up/grow out the one I saved for snaps before I share them.
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Post by jondear on Sept 13, 2015 17:00:07 GMT -5
here is the bean I liked.  |
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Post by kyredneck on Sept 13, 2015 19:23:33 GMT -5
I'll wait. Please keep us posted. |
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Post by steev on Sept 29, 2015 0:43:11 GMT -5
That's a nice looking bean. I think I'll be able to grow P. vulgaris when I've got poultry-shade structures.
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Post by reed on Sept 29, 2015 7:51:17 GMT -5
Ohio Pole was far and away my favorite new bean this year. I previously posted abut them as a mystery bean till I figured out what they are. Liked them so much here they are again.   I don't know if they are good as a dry bean, they shrink so much I wonder if they might take a long time to cook dry but as a green or shelly they are great. They appear to never get tough and they taste wonderful. I saw a discussion on leather britches somewhere and speculation on what kind was used. I wonder if without freezers or canning jars if they were not whatever you had. It got me wondering, if you wanted to make leather britches maybe a big non tough bean would be a good choice. I'm gonna find out next year. [add] one more thing, they produce and produce. I have picking both green to eat and dry for seed almost every day since I realized how good they are. |
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Post by reed on Nov 17, 2016 11:43:42 GMT -5
Last year I grew the Ohio pole in the corn and they did wonderfully there, better I think than they did this year out in the sun. They were even planted kinda late after the corn was up a foot or so.
Could shade maybe encourage them to flower and set sooner? I would say in any event that they are a true corn field bean and one of if not the best tasting green or shelly bean I'v ever grown.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Nov 17, 2016 16:07:44 GMT -5
Purple ones indicate there must have been some crossing before I got them. I expect that planting the red colored beans would produce normal looking offspring. I observe that sort of behavior in some types of horticultural beans: Where the color pattern on the bean is basically reversed. Pinto beans are a good example. Where there are a few percentage of dark brown beans with light speckles instead of the typical pattern of dark speckles on a light bean. So it doesn't seem like cross-pollination to me. Transposons perhaps? Here's an example in Pinto beans. Those dark colored beans produce normal colored offspring.  |
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Post by steev on Nov 18, 2016 0:31:46 GMT -5
I've been looking forward to growing P. vulgaris, which croak for me without shade, and poultry under shade confinement structures, but now I have badgers, which I think will get under the structures and kill my poultry; this whole ecosystem thing is so complex! Not that I'm complaining! Well, maybe bitching a tad; always a new challenge; keeps me interested; I like that.
There's my epitaph: "Met a problem I couldn't figure out."
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Post by steev on Nov 18, 2016 20:00:51 GMT -5
The whole critter-predation thing is why my planting areas are "temporarily" fenced; eventually I want 8' fence around the whole twenty acres, so I don't have to cage anything, just everything, then I can have dogs and cats to deal with pests that can get through the fence. Birds are another matter, but I think they clean things out because my plantings are too small, rather than the flocks being very large. I need to plant trap plants like Pyracantha, which will catch their beady little eyes, so they'll fill up on that, like bread in a restaurant, before getting to the entree.
Before I get poultry (after reaching an understanding with the badger{s?}, possibly terminal, though I'd regret that), I have an idea for portable containment/shade structures which could serve as trellis; I like the notion of multi-use structures.
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Post by galina on Dec 1, 2016 2:22:43 GMT -5
Hey, I got quoted!  But I want a white seeded bean, like Blue Lake and maybe a bit more straight and consistant in size, ditto. So, plan is to cross the two and see if I can get better anthracnose resistance with a white or at least light coloured seed and more uniform beans. Anyone know what the odds are? Do you know about this one? |
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Kwintus and Fortex are two of my favorites I've grown in the past and a cross that combines the good traits of both makes me want some seed, maybe later. (hint, hint) 
