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Post by richardw on Jan 27, 2016 23:43:22 GMT -5
Richard, WHAROROA and WAIPOROPORO are plants grown from 'MYSTERY' TPS by wmontanez. They are not anything available in New Zealand. wmontanez grew out TPS and had 4 plants she saved tubers from. Two of these were WHAROROA and WAIPOROPORO. got ya, and WAIPOROPORO means purple in Maori, as for WHAROROA Whar means 'house' and Roa means 'long' and Wha 'four' |
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Post by wmontanez on Jan 28, 2016 12:54:58 GMT -5
Richard,
Those names (wharoroa and waiporoporo) are the names I made up for the clones after the segregation of mystery TPS.. Wharoroa is not a solid red, long elongated with white/red flesh. Whaiporoporo was more round almost solid purple inside great taste. I shared them with Nathan Pierce because I was not able to grow in 2015 any clones. I grew Mystery until 2014, sent it as donation to KEnosha potato project, but have some TPS from it now. Some people are grown interested in them since the amazing long keepers they are plus good taste as well.
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Post by wmontanez on Jan 28, 2016 12:59:28 GMT -5
Nathan, thanks.
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Post by flowerweaver on Jan 28, 2016 14:21:32 GMT -5
My TPS have not made berries (so far). Tags faded in the field so the tuber-grown TPS from 2014-2015 are now one big landrace mixture. I only know what's possibly there and that there's a good variety of colors.
2016 seed-grown TPS now in the greenhouse:
Bountiful
Fripapa
Julie's Garden
Maris Piper
Magic Dragons
Muru
Plenty Enough
2016 tuber-grown TPS from 2015 seed ready to plant out (possible mixture):
Alamosa Golds
Azule Rose
Crash of 1929
Fripapa
Magic Dragons
Maris Piper
Minnie's Pig
Mr. Yield
Muru
Plenty Enough
River John Blue
Sagit Beets
Star Azule
Tollocan
Yukon Snow
2016 tuber-grown TPS from 2014 tubers (possible mixture from a trade):
AKT
Amey Purple
Amey Russet White
Azule Rose
Azul Toro
Bora Valley
Diamond Toro
Felderslohn
Jogeva Bigfoot
Magic Dragons
Pink Eye
Plenty Enough
Red Thumb
Unknown
Yellow Butter
White Finger
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Post by richardw on Jan 29, 2016 12:41:29 GMT -5
I grew Mystery until 2014, sent it as donation to KEnosha potato project, Hopefully this cone is still being grown? , i'll go onto the FB page and ask... |
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Post by richardw on Jan 29, 2016 12:43:25 GMT -5
flowerweaver Impressive collection there. What time of year do you get most of your flowering?
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Post by flowerweaver on Jan 29, 2016 14:39:56 GMT -5
richardw my TPS potatoes have never flowered, at least so far. I'm planting them much earlier this year so perhaps they will. In general, how many weeks after planting does everyone's TPS flower?
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Post by richardw on Jan 29, 2016 22:08:29 GMT -5
Wow , never flowered!!Should have flowers after 3months, well, thats how long it takes for me, others may have different times
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 31, 2016 20:58:33 GMT -5
quick question. Are potato leaved tomatoes interbreedable with potatoes? Are there any tomatoes that are interbreedable with potatoes? If the answer could be yes, then could tomatoes be used to increase TPS set in potato varieties? Maybe not, but it was a random curious thought.
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Post by philagardener on Jan 31, 2016 21:22:36 GMT -5
Potato leaf (PL) vs regular leaf (RL) is a simple, single gene trait in tomatoes. (PL is recessive.)
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Post by nathanp on Jan 31, 2016 22:05:39 GMT -5
The answer is theoretically yes, but only by grafting. Graft a potato top onto a tomato stem, and that directs the plants energy towards producing fruit instead of tubers. Tomatoes and potatoes are normally not breedable. Too far away genetically. There are ways to try to stimulate TPS production. Planting a tuber shallowly or even letting a tuber root from on top of the soil forces the plant to not produce tubers. There are several methods of doing this. This document is from the USDA genebank on how they grow potatoes to produce TPS. Keep in mind that most commercial potatoes have sterility problems. Some are male sterile, others are poor male pollen producers. You have to try to go outside the mainstream to get fertile potatoes, or carefully select certain ones. USDA Genebank doc |
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Post by reed on Feb 1, 2016 6:38:50 GMT -5
I planted some commercial potatoes last year, just barely underground in hard clay and a good amount of shade. I actually left the top of the tuber exposed. I got some spindly plants with quite a few flowers but no fruits.
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Post by nathanp on Feb 1, 2016 7:05:45 GMT -5
What kind of potatoes? Plenty of commercial ones won't produce fruits without hand pollination. See this thread for more details Restoring potato fertility link |
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Post by reed on Feb 1, 2016 13:56:41 GMT -5
They were Kennebec and Pontiac that I bought as seed clones and Idaho Russet from the store. I think I'll do it again this year and try hand pollinating. I'm also growing TPS for the first time this year.
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Post by nathanp on Feb 1, 2016 18:38:11 GMT -5
Kennebec and Pontiac are both male sterile. I am not sure if Idaho Russet is a generic term as I don't recognize that as a variety name. It could very well be as well, and if that is the case, you'll never get berries on them without a male fertile variety being grown in the vicinity.
You would be better off trying different varieties.
I have had berries from Kennebec, but given that I grew over 125 row feet of them in the vicinity of 40+ other varieties in 2014. I got a few berries. A lot of flowers, and maybe about 10 or 12 total berries on 125+ plants. They would be 100% crossed because Kennebec is male sterile.
I will be growing a few TPS out this year just to see what happened. Some of the varieties nearby were some exotic ones.
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