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Post by richardw on Feb 6, 2016 20:27:16 GMT -5
The tuber grown ones surely should be ok, at least you can positive that you've discovered two frost tolerant seedlings
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Post by wmontanez on Feb 6, 2016 23:31:08 GMT -5
flowerweaver I do that on purpose...I expose my TPS seedling to cold temperatures early on to preselect for hardiness. Any TPS from it will be more tolerant. Do far it seems to work as most commercial variest are dead in a light frost my potato plants have to be taken in November they keep going after a mild frost.
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Post by philagardener on Feb 7, 2016 7:22:45 GMT -5
flowerweaver , hope the pup is OK. The few that made it sound interesting; maybe some others will bounce back from their roots.
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Post by flowerweaver on Feb 7, 2016 12:15:53 GMT -5
philagardener thanks, we go for a follow up tomorrow so I'll know more. He had an anterior lens luxation--the lens detached and floated in front of the iris, painfully building up fluid so the lens had to be surgically removed. Hopefully this saved some vision. Apparently this is common in terriers. richardw and wmontanez I don't usually worry about frost tolerance--I'm usually more concerned about the heat. Mostly I have lost the ability to eat potatoes from losing so many plants, and of course my potential TPS seed project is set back. One good reason for me to develop frost tolerance, though, is that the earlier I can set potatoes out I can beat the heat that seems to be coming earlier in the spring. So I'm looking on the bright side of my forgetfulness! I will plant the frost tolerant two together, and hope for some flowers and promiscuous pollination!!!
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Post by reed on Feb 7, 2016 16:46:50 GMT -5
richardw and wmontanez I don't usually worry about frost tolerance--I'm usually more concerned about the heat. Mostly I have lost the ability to eat potatoes from losing so many plants, and of course my potential TPS seed project is set back. One good reason for me to develop frost tolerance, though, is that the earlier I can set potatoes out I can beat the heat that seems to be coming earlier in the spring. So I'm looking on the bright side of my forgetfulness! That's exactly what I was thinking, it might be a blessing in disguise. Get them taters planted early so you can harvest before the hot dry comes. That's what I'm trying to do with pretty much everything, early or late planting and short season has a better chance of filling the pantry. Forget that July, August crap and mine isn't as extreme as yours. Hope the doggy gets well and you don't have to dress him up like a little pirate. There is a short concrete wall beside our patio and our dog likes to lay on the end of it doing her sphinx imitation. I notice recently she hesitates a little jumping up and in getting up. Age catches up with them too I suppose.
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Post by richardw on Feb 8, 2016 12:56:20 GMT -5
One of the major problems here is we can get a very hard frost in late Spring - early summer which will kill all TPS plants if not covered, that may only be once every two of three years, there's no way you can select for that level of frost tolerance. A frost we had in Nov was so cold (-4C deg) it killed a Pinot noir grape out right, but hey, if it cant handle growing here, so be it, after all, all the other grapes came away fine though they had no fruit because of that frost.
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Post by nathanp on Feb 8, 2016 13:04:34 GMT -5
Flowerweaver, there are some people who think there is a correlation between heat tolerance and frost tolerance. That the same genes may be responsible for tolerance to extreme weather. Specifically, some of the 'wilder' potato species, from higher on the mountains in the Andes, are exposed to greater temperature ranges than those at lower elevations.
Those genes may be present in some of your TPS lines.
Which lines are the surviving two plants from?
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Post by flowerweaver on Feb 12, 2016 14:23:17 GMT -5
nathanp the two survivors are a Maris Piper and a Plenty Enough.
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Post by nathanp on Feb 13, 2016 12:59:19 GMT -5
Who knows? Maybe those inherited some frost resistance genes somewhere along the way. Maris Piper is 1/4 andigena, that is outside the mainstream of most commercial potatoes. Maris Piper pedigreeI know Plenty Enough is a Tom Wagner line, but I am not sure the pedigree. Is it diploid? If so, it is probably related to the Skagit Plenty and Skagit Valley Gold and has lots of different potatoes in it's pedigree.
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Post by robertb on Feb 20, 2016 11:51:24 GMT -5
I want to grow out mini tubers from last year's TPS, and get berries from as many as possible.I only got seed from two lines last year; Skagit Magic and Diverse. then I want to try stressing other varieties to see if I can force them to produce TPS. Next year I should have more idea about which lines are worth keeping, and I'll probably plant a lot more seed.
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Post by flowerweaver on Feb 20, 2016 16:36:11 GMT -5
Aaaak...I just discovered I left the irrigation on the TPS tubers for three days when I only meant to water them for an hour!!! I hope they don't rot. Guess any survivors will be selected for the onslaught of rain being predicted by weathermen. Even my flood insurance has doubled, so FEMA must think it's coming, too
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Post by philagardener on Feb 20, 2016 18:28:03 GMT -5
Those are going to be really tough taters!
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Post by flowerweaver on Feb 21, 2016 15:35:01 GMT -5
Six of them have re-sprouted so maybe all is not lost yet. Yep, philagardener, I'm selecting for indestructibility...so far that's my favorite vegetable trait! And these were harvested last year after excessive rainfall so maybe they will be forgiving.
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Post by reed on Mar 31, 2016 8:30:50 GMT -5
My first ever TPS are sprouting. At least I guess they are the TPS, look like tomatoes except they are tiny and two of them are bright red! Unfortunately I wasn't able to get good pictures, guess I should read up on the macro feature on my camera.
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Post by gilbert on Mar 31, 2016 9:57:50 GMT -5
I've got Diamond Toro, Red fleshed Fingerling, and Survive and Thrive mix TPS planted. No sprouts yet.
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