Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Apr 6, 2018 23:37:29 GMT -5
I planted Salvia columbariae seeds today in the rain. I was surprized at how much seed I had from the few small plants I grew last year. I tried direct seeding them this year. Last year they were transplants.
Silt/clay, high-altitude, super-arid, sun-drenched, irrigated-desert garden. Cold radiant-cooled nights. ~100 frost free days. Grow most of my own locally adapted landrace seed. GDD10C ~1300. Author of Mother Earth News: Landrace Gardening Blog.
Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Apr 7, 2018 0:59:25 GMT -5
Your excitement to tomatoes is infective. Now i want to plant tomatoes haha. But it's not time yet for me. I can't seem to find my magnus tomatoes (that one reported as having a high out-crossing rate and exerted stigmas for an old variety. Guess i need to order the seeds again.
Today i got some surprise tomato seeds from Belarus, with russian tomato seeds.
I'm itching to plant watermelon seeds. Might plant some early, but not sure if i will all. Might plant the citron melon hybrids early. The watermelon seed i'm planting this year is the remaining old seed from two seasons ago. So none of the really good selected watermelon seed will be planted from last year. But that's okay. I'm planning on doing heavy selection this year from whatever grows to chopping out slow growers and those with fruit end rot. It's kinda cool to have reached the point where i get so much watermelon seed back that i don't even have room to plant it all in one season. I still remember the first year of the grex / proto-landrace where i was lucky to get any seeds from mostly immature runt fruits.
Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Apr 7, 2018 10:47:29 GMT -5
haha wouldn't that be great?! I say give space priority to your seed first then to whatever of mine. If i'm honest i don't even think i shared the best seed, i saved that for myself haha. So whatever i shared was just extra seed of whatever was left. Though perhaps i mixed in some of the best seed too because i felt bad only sharing the poorest seed. But even then most are hybrids so i'm sure some of the best pollen was shared.
And if you don't even have room to plant it all that's not a bad thing. I'm finding it not a bad idea to save some seed as backup. Last year i had a really bad bean failure and nearly lost all my seed. only got a few measly beans for the ones that were most precious to me. Hard lesson learned. Save at least 1/3 (if you have a small amount of seed) as backup.
Just set the tomato transplants in the backyard greenhouse. T minus 13 days to outplanting. Exciting!
Nice! I took a leap of faith and already transplanted the giant pennellii and a large domestic with cheesmamiae ancestry a few days ago. Most of the rest are outside in the large hydro tray. Or in a pot (LA1996). The only one that suffered any shock was LA1996, but it looks to recover. I guess the pennellii suffered some sun scald too, but not too bad. I might have lost my fertilized tomatoes though. Oh, well. Since it does not seem to have pollen of its own and should flower all season and still has flowers that should attract pollinators I expect the bees to do a good job with it. I need to plant more F2 seeds and F1 seeds from the alternate [domestic x pennellii] line.
Otherwise. They are doing well. (I'll try to go take a picture now..)
The only tomatoes inside are sitiens and lycopersicoides. Small and slow growing. Not ready to risk them yet. But the galapagense is doing great! Fast grower too!
I put two photos up on Permies.com of the suspect seedlings.
Although this site has reached it's photo limit of in-forum hosted photos it is easy to link photos that are hosted on other forums, such as permies. For example: These are your photos from permies just linked here from the permies server...
Just thought i'd mention you can do that
p.s. your top photo seedling might still be a potato leaf.. let's wait a little longer to see for sure...
I lost one habrochaites leaved BC1. Everything else looked ok including the other two. Light sunburn on a few. The ones I just set out wilted a little but it's evening already and I think they will recover by morning. I haven't watered any yet.
Ditto. I lost at least one maybe two bc1 seedlings. They suffered heavily from sunburn and/cold snap. I think it was sun. They were the most affected of any variety wild or domestic.
So, you've had terrible luck with blacktail mountain as a variety as well? Or just watermelon in general?
It's been more like limited success.
Like last year I planted all my saved seed and all my new Lofthouse seed and two starts from the greenhouse I worked in and got back less seed than I planted. That's been pretty typical. I haven't been able to keep a strain seed saved over time.
I may plant a very small patch yet this year, maybe today, if I can get it prepped. I see it as a high care species in terms of being on top of weeding. Which makes the packet you sent me of vigorous half wild seed intriguing.
This year I know I don't have enough time to weed.
The first few years i finally got watermelon to sort of get ripe i felt like the same that i was getting back less seed than i had planted. That has not been the case the last few seasons. And in my main watermelon patch i have not been the best weeder, so hopefully they are adapting to high weed competition.
I know what you mean though. I do not have time to weed at all this year. And the main patch planted was 2 year old seed, so not as adapted, with new seed mixed in too. Honestly the main patch does not look all that thriving, though some look good. if none survive i still have my best seed from last year.
But the half citron melons patches look pretty good. I'm excited about the genetics in those patches. The fruit may not be edible this year, but still worth pursing i think. The pure citrons do well in my crappy dry clayish soil even in crowded conditions with other wathermelons. So good genetics me thinks.