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Post by richardw on Oct 6, 2017 22:47:19 GMT -5
A question i started on a vegetable growing facebook page today -
beetroot, radishes and onions- are they a root crop?. I was looking at a moon planting chart where it says these being a root crop are what to sow for the next week or so, beetroot, radishes and onions were on that list. They are not root crops, you dont eat the roots of these, you eat the swollen stems. Carrots, Parsnips, Skirret, Hamburg parsley etc are root crops.
To me a root crop is when you eat the root section. You dont eat the onion roots, you dont eat the beetroot roots the turnip or radish and they dont grow below ground. Even Wikipedia have it wrong
Thoughts?
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Post by steev on Oct 6, 2017 23:25:17 GMT -5
Dammit, richardw, have you no grasp whatsoever of linguistic differences? Is the rest of the world to conform to your understanding of nomenclature? I suggest you get a drink, go sit on your "dick" and chill. I'm sure we'll all continue to call things whatever we've learned to, regardless of accuracy or observation.
Onions are clearly not a root crop; they're being lazy about their instructions.
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Post by rowan on Oct 6, 2017 23:26:08 GMT -5
I am sure that beets, turnips, and radishes are swollen roots (the taproot), not stems. I am not sure where you get that info from - or maybe I have had it wrong all my life.
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Post by steev on Oct 6, 2017 23:54:12 GMT -5
Who cares? Eat those suckers, and be done with it.
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Post by richardw on Oct 7, 2017 0:14:56 GMT -5
A carrot or a parsnip would certainly be a swollen taproot, beets, turnips, and radishes?, its a fine line with some varieties swell below ground level while others higher in the stem system that form above ground
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Post by steev on Oct 7, 2017 0:58:42 GMT -5
How much do we care? Eat those suckers; I can't imagine how beets, turnips, and radishes aren't root-crops. They grow, produce a potentially storable crop and, mostly, die. If one can nurture a variety that doesn't conform to this model, excellent! The whole world will be in your debt, though few will recognize it
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Post by richardw on Oct 7, 2017 1:20:59 GMT -5
I ask this after reading a moon planting guide this morning where from now till new moon is said to be root crop planting time, not that i follow it, like i said its a fine line between what swells in the stem or root section.
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Post by steev on Oct 7, 2017 2:11:29 GMT -5
Especially if you're stuck on the moon, which neither sows nor reaps and has no weather, not even what passes for such in NZ. It will be interesting to see how fast such products, such as the "Farmer's Almanac", manage to deal with global climate change; I doubt they'll keep up, being largely based on past experience.
I hope you realize I mean you no disparagement, despite your having long-ago mocked me (a very well-aimed shot, as I recall); I just have no patience with such hoary "planting" guides; I think we are not only beyond such, but that the global climate is also becoming beyond our hereditary rules, which pisses me off, it being our own damned fault.
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Post by richardw on Oct 7, 2017 3:10:46 GMT -5
We share the same lack of patience for the mythical moon planting guide by the way. Got to hand to you, you certainly would give any elephant a run its money remembering my well intended mocking.
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Post by steev on Oct 7, 2017 10:54:27 GMT -5
Being a weird-wolf, night is likely to find me mooning at the bay.
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Post by RpR on Oct 7, 2017 11:58:40 GMT -5
steev is the undisputed champion of witty, poetic snark on HG as far as I am concerned. REALLY now, I always thought he modeled his style after Pee Wee Herman or was it Pee Wee's arch enemy FRANCIS, either way, I'm rubber, he's glue....
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Post by RpR on Oct 7, 2017 11:59:03 GMT -5
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Post by richardw on Oct 7, 2017 13:00:29 GMT -5
Being a weird-wolf, night is likely to find me mooning at the bay. informal expose one's buttocks to someone in order to insult or amuse them. "the crew dropped their trousers and mooned at them" OK... what ever spins ya wheels
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Post by richardw on Oct 7, 2017 13:16:52 GMT -5
Its sad that some people are so sensitive when you question there strongly held belief of moon planting. Seems to so many myths out in the gardening world, take a few days, a lady i know mentioned on FB that she only had one pumpkin seed out 15 come up because she forgot to sow them vertical instead of laying flat, couldn't believe how many others came on and said, 'never sow seeds on there sides', wtf. So i sowed 10 pumpkins seeds each way, when they came up i posted a photo showing it made no difference, she didnt like that and removed her thread.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Oct 7, 2017 20:59:46 GMT -5
Oh no! There goes my world unraveling. I'd have to say that onions and garlic are definitely not root crops!!! I'd call carrots, beets, and radishes tap-root crops.
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