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Post by canadamike on Sept 11, 2010 22:29:37 GMT -5
Here are a couple of pictures of MAKE MY DAY X OSU BLUE. i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/canadamike1/Jardin-garden%202010%20Cumberland/2010_09112010MUSEJARDIN0204.jpgi307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/canadamike1/Jardin-garden%202010%20Cumberland/2010_09112010MUSEJARDIN0205.jpgi307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/canadamike1/Jardin-garden%202010%20Cumberland/2010_09112010MUSEJARDIN0206.jpgi307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/canadamike1/Jardin-garden%202010%20Cumberland/2010_09112010MUSEJARDIN0207.jpgi307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/canadamike1/Jardin-garden%202010%20Cumberland/2010_09112010MUSEJARDIN0208.jpgBTW Tom, I have 3 phenotypes of COLLEGE BELLE : one with a full expression of the stripes, especially remarquable and quite dazling in the bottom part of the fruit, which is my recolection of the one I fell in love with in Haverskerke, one with MOSTLY the upper part being striped, and a very different one, describing it is hard, I would say the upper part of a ''black tomato'', in the style of ANANAS NOIR, meening greenish, and a pinkish bottom. Yesterday, I picked a lot of them, reserving the ones that were crushed under the weight of the plants for seed saving ( providing good looks of course, but the harvest is so bountiful, the plants are so huge...) so I discarded the third one....then we ate corn and I went back to the compost pile and VOILA!!! I saw a sexy tomato deserving love on its own merit... Since only the bottom is pink I was trying to find a name for her. I came up with '' WAGNER'S PINK UNDERWEAR'' Do you like it or do you think I am a nut ;D
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Post by tatermater on Sept 11, 2010 22:54:09 GMT -5
PINK HANDCUFFS is a name I would prefer, not being one to wear pink underwear like they do in Sheriff Joe's jail in Arizona. For a picture go here... www.pinkunderwear.com/images/banner.jpgStraight jacket is my answer, but then you knew that. Be a good name for any tomato you name. hah! Folks, Michel and I tease each other. Good thing we did not have a recording of our talks in the car we both drove around in all over France! BTW, the picture for Make My Day x OSU Blue did not show up. Does it have a trace of blue on the shoulders? It should be determinate
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Post by atash on Sept 12, 2010 19:27:37 GMT -5
If you do take more pictures, Tom (we might have to move your operations elsewhere), let's work on using the program mode (more adjustable settings) to see if we can get the colors more accurate. I am disappointed. Let's play with your camera too to see what it can do vis a vis color accuracy.
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Post by starlight1153 on Sept 12, 2010 19:49:16 GMT -5
Atash... Thanks for posting a clearer picture. Definitely able to see the Pansy look a lot better. : )
Oh geez. : ) Could you just see eventually the market signs or folks all over the net asking ," Where do you find Wagner's Pink Underware?" If she such a lady try Pink Petticoat or Bottoms Up.
How's does the Make My Day x OSU Blue taste?
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Post by Darth Slater on Sept 13, 2010 6:59:37 GMT -5
Muellers H-34 Yellow This one has had variable stages of antho expression due to the fact it was covered and I didnt see it in time to clear paces for the sun to get to it.
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Post by tatermater on Sept 13, 2010 13:24:03 GMT -5
1. Michel, I now see the links to your blue tomatoes....pix 204 to 208...not sure if one or more of them is the Make My Day x Blue or not. 2. I notice that the picture that Darth Slater has up on the previous page has a yellow epidermis and just a bit of blue which is colored brownish due to the over-riding of the yellow on blue. In spite of the fruits not having full sun to color up the shoulders at least....it appears that the fruits have the blue gene only as a heterozygous line. 3. The other thing I notice with Darth Slater is that he mentioned the tomato as and I presume he got the seed from Keith Mueller? I did not know much about Keith's work with the blue except from Darrel Jones. 4. I don't know if I ever talked on the phone or shared an email with Mr. Slater of Michigan about tomatoes, therefore I thought "Oh, there is someone else working with segregations besides me." I did a search with his avatar name and found a site I also knew nothing about... The Tomato Garden or thetomatogarden.proboards.com and had no idea of the existence of such a site. Quite a few topics on blue tomatoes and other breeding topics. Very cool! I thought Keith was on Tomatoland.net but that site is quiet lately. 5. I searched my tatermater forum for thetomatogarden.proboards.com and no results were found there nor on Homegrown Goodness either. Two hits were found over on Tomatoville.com. I was wondering why I was unaware of that forum? Anybody else go there besides Darth? 6. My work with Blue tomatoes is independent of Keith's. Amazing how much two tomato breeders like myself and Keith have kept our breeding lines apart as if an ocean separates us. Tom Wagner
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Post by canadamike on Sept 13, 2010 17:57:32 GMT -5
I reposted the pictures. There is even more blue on MMD X OSU BLUE thsn the OSU alone
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Post by tatermater on Sept 13, 2010 23:24:07 GMT -5
Michel,
I did not expect that blue to show through so well for the Make My Day x Blue hybrid
BTW, my field plant of Make My Day is late blight resistant! In a plot of tomatoes planted in tomatoes every year, MMD is determinate and fully produced out but compared to susceptable lines it is green and healthy and the adjoining vines are near dead. Most of my Ph-2 lines show resistance but better if homozygous. The combination of Ph-3 with that works well.
MMD is a second cousin to my Skykomish variety....I showed a picture of it (Skykomish) during our trip to Europe.
Tom Wagner
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Post by iva on Sept 14, 2010 3:27:39 GMT -5
I joined that other forum via an invitation by one of our forum friends. That site is rather good, I might add. It is fairly new but has lots of good reading material. My nick on that other site is nolika...
I only grew one plant of OSU Blue this year, and it was from the seeds Stratcat had sent me, from the plant with very dark blue foliage. Mine did not express that much blue in the leaves, but the fruits are very dark, almost black...
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Post by gegedunord on Sept 14, 2010 13:53:37 GMT -5
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Post by starlight1153 on Sept 14, 2010 17:12:36 GMT -5
Gegedunord… J'espère vous pouvez comprendre ceci, espérance d'I que ce qui vous avez le type DIS français et j'emploie le site Web Babelfish pour essayer et traduire avec. Beau photo' ; s. Votre PICS de PIC 2063, 2096, sont très gentil de voir le bleu. J'aime particulièrement comment pensez que c'est votre dernière image qui montre le bleu même sur le fond très bien. Vos usines d'une partie de l'OSU original les graines sont-elles sont-elles bleues ou vos usines des croix ?
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Post by leftylogan on Sept 14, 2010 22:10:25 GMT -5
1. Michel, I now see the links to your blue tomatoes....pix 204 to 208...not sure if one or more of them is the Make My Day x Blue or not. 2. I notice that the picture that Darth Slater has up on the previous page has a yellow epidermis and just a bit of blue which is colored brownish due to the over-riding of the yellow on blue. In spite of the fruits not having full sun to color up the shoulders at least....it appears that the fruits have the blue gene only as a heterozygous line. 3. The other thing I notice with Darth Slater is that he mentioned the tomato as and I presume he got the seed from Keith Mueller? I did not know much about Keith's work with the blue except from Darrel Jones. 4. I don't know if I ever talked on the phone or shared an email with Mr. Slater of Michigan about tomatoes, therefore I thought "Oh, there is someone else working with segregations besides me." I did a search with his avatar name and found a site I also knew nothing about... The Tomato Garden or thetomatogarden.proboards.com and had no idea of the existence of such a site. Quite a few topics on blue tomatoes and other breeding topics. Very cool! I thought Keith was on Tomatoland.net but that site is quiet lately. 5. I searched my tatermater forum for thetomatogarden.proboards.com and no results were found there nor on Homegrown Goodness either. Two hits were found over on Tomatoville.com. I was wondering why I was unaware of that forum? Anybody else go there besides Darth?6. My work with Blue tomatoes is independent of Keith's. Amazing how much two tomato breeders like myself and Keith have kept our breeding lines apart as if an ocean separates us. Tom Wagner I post there
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Post by Darth Slater on Sept 15, 2010 8:30:48 GMT -5
These are h-34 blue that I didnt expose to sunlight, and let rippen from the greenstage, they also carry the nipple gene, out of almost 100 plants only 3 produced nipple fruit, one was a yellow also.
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Post by cortona on Sept 15, 2010 14:24:25 GMT -5
i understand french but i cant write correctly as in english, so just a question, wath is the difference from the usual osu blu that show antocianine just on the shoulders and the tomatoes of gegedunord that are complitely purple/blue? i'm interested in more blue tomatoes (is just something related of my haestetic sense but i think that a tomato that is fully blue is fantastic!)
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Post by canadamike on Sept 15, 2010 19:15:35 GMT -5
If they are the OSU Blue and not a cross, it simply means that genetic variability enabled the gene to express itself all over the fruit. If I might give an imperfect exemple, it would be like all green tomatoes as opposed to tomatoes with green shoulders when ripe, or something like that.
It is important to point out that the shoulders are almost always getting some sun, and the blue color is expressed where the sun hits. I have toyed with ''tomato positioning'' on the trusses and have got blue on the belly of the tomatoes but not on the shoulders, and also increased the blue area just by moving the fruits a bit.
Some of the OSU BLUE X GREEN ZEBRA, and especially MAKE MY DAY X OSU BLUE show even more blue than OSU, and in the last case sometimes on much bigger tomatoes.
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