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Post by flowerpower on Jul 16, 2009 7:11:49 GMT -5
Dave, I think its $10 cheaper to have the bags mailed to silverseed. Then he can mail me some in a "pay one price" box from the PO. It's the cheapest way to do it at the moment. So you order them this time. I do not have his addy. When you send seeds, include a list of exactly what quantity of each size package you want. And what should I do with the "extra" seed? Make more packs or just send it back with the rest. I'll grab a few hundred bags today while I am out. So I can get started. They won't go to waste. lol
Please make sure the seeds will fit in my big mailbox. I don't want to have to keep picking up stuff at the PO. They get pissy here when you get lots of packages. You might take them away from their crossword puzzles.
Oh I am totally confused about the whole cutting and folding. I have no idea how many of those little squares are wrapped around the yardstick. I get the concept. But how many am I supposed to get from one sheet of paper?
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Post by americangardener on Jul 16, 2009 23:01:24 GMT -5
Dave, I think its $10 cheaper to have the bags mailed to silverseed. Then he can mail me some in a "pay one price" box from the PO. It's the cheapest way to do it at the moment. So you order them this time. I do not have his addy. When you send seeds, include a list of exactly what quantity of each size package you want. And what should I do with the "extra" seed? Make more packs or just send it back with the rest. I'll grab a few hundred bags today while I am out. So I can get started. They won't go to waste. lol Please make sure the seeds will fit in my big mailbox. I don't want to have to keep picking up stuff at the PO. They get pissy here when you get lots of packages. You might take them away from their crossword puzzles. Oh I am totally confused about the whole cutting and folding. I have no idea how many of those little squares are wrapped around the yardstick. I get the concept. But how many am I supposed to get from one sheet of paper? Alright.. i'll get something ordered here soon. Too bad i couldn't just send Zac some of my prepaid priotity mail envelopes... already stamped. I hardly ever use these and i've still got 10 or 15 left. They're from before the last rate increase.. but still it only costs me something like an extra 70 cents.. and i can get 3 lbs of beans or peas in there.. I can't even think of how many small baggies i could put in there. I have two thousand baggie boxes of the 2x3 inch ones left.. i know i could fit those both into a priority mail package.. maybe i'll just mail Zac a thousand of mine for now.. and some seeds to package along with those. I'm still working on an idea i have for making seed sample booklets. Maybe get one made up with all ten thousand of my vareites with one of each on a sheet of 32 varieties per page. How's that for a yearbook? 3000 page book of seed descriptons and pictures and growers info on the back of each one? Well maybe it'll work out.. maybe it won't... but that's what i'm working on. That's why all these seemingly weird ideas i have are all designed to work together. I like it when i can save work for myself and everyone else.. so that's why i try to find more than one use for everything. Can't help it i guess.. just the way i think. So FP.. will a priority mail size packet fit in your large mailbox? I could probably find something to put in there for you to pack up and we'll order you some small size baggies later on if we need to. Like i said.. i'm still tinkering.. if i do decide to try my idea..it'll have to be in a big way.. i've got some research people getting me a quote on what i want.. and then if i do order from them it will most likely be in the hundreds of dollars just for those. But it'd be enough to make up over 70,000 sample packet sizes.. that's a whole 7 yearbooks! |
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 16, 2009 23:27:45 GMT -5
flowrpower lol I love making those women get up and go in the back. lol.
AG So outline this a little, when do you HOPE to have this all ready? and WAHt will be ready so far your talking mainly about tomatoes. what else do you have? I heard you say before you have seeds, of all these types, but I dont think you mentioned if you have these increased enough to actually sell them. Do you have growers growing anything out this year?
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Post by americangardener on Jul 17, 2009 0:19:40 GMT -5
flowrpower lol I love making those women get up and go in the back. lol. AG So outline this a little, when do you HOPE to have this all ready? and WAHt will be ready so far your talking mainly about tomatoes. what else do you have? I heard you say before you have seeds, of all these types, but I dont think you mentioned if you have these increased enough to actually sell them. Do you have growers growing anything out this year? Well.. i have every vegetable... probably somewhere around a hundred varieties of most.. say peppers, cukes, melons, tomatoes, squash.. those kinds. But the tomatoes are the ones i have the most varieties of... and that's because it's the one that sells the most. That's why i concentrate more on tomatoes right now.. we need to have them packaged and ready when the customers start ordering in a few months. They're small, lightweight, easy to ship, and they can produce higher profits than any of the other seeds can. There are some websites that only sell tomatoes.. and they do quite well with one tenth of the varieties i have. Course i will only be doing around 200 or 300 varieties this year on the website.. but eventually i'll be making up trial packets for every single one of my varieties.. and that's where the sample size thing i'm working on with Jo is gonna fit in. She's also helping to design the labels. And in case you didn't read it already.. the start up for business is Oct 31st.. everything has to be ready to start selling on Nov 1st. That really isn't alot of time.. and if i have to not be able to list something cause of time constraints.. well then i'd rather it be something like beans or peas where they don't increase at even a fraction of what something like tomatoes do.. and they don't sell for much of a markup.. and they are a hundred times heavier to ship. So.. that's why tomatoes right now.. as i said.. first things first.. i have to go with the ones customers will be demanding the most at that time and work on the lower profit ones and summer season ones as i get the time to put em on the website. That website is never gonna be finished by the way.. it's gonna be constantly need to be added to.. So.. at startup.. expect to be packaging alot of tomatoes, pepper, eggplants, broccolis, cauliflowers, etc. I'm concentrating on getting the labeling ready for those first.. then i can work on the heavier less profitable items. And since i'm doing most everything by myself.. i have to do the profitable ones first. And yes.. on the other questions.. i wouldn't list something for sale if i didn't have it already or have one of my growers who is reliable telling me that he's got a crop i can list. There's one guy who's growing ten acres of just one variety of hami melons this year. He says he's gonna send me ten pounds of seed to get started.. then after that if i can sell em.. he wants me to have first dibs on anything he offers to sell... whatever i can't take he's already offered to Jere. I have no idea what his discussions with Jerre were like.. but long story short.. yes i have growers i can source. I also have commercial seed sources where i can purchase bulk seed at below wholesale prices for the more common ones.. and those are gonna be some where you'll be packaging thousands of packets of say one variety of carrot or something like that. But that'll be when we have the customers, the labels straightened out and the time and money to purchase tens of thousands of baggies a week and are able to spend the time on em. |
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 17, 2009 1:05:31 GMT -5
I intend to grow out many types of peas, and a few favas this fall. Id sell those o you for whatever the going price is, if youd like. I dont intend to do to much in the way of isolation though. Im growing out mainly bush types. I think I have five or six of those, and on my two fences, I will have a few plants of each types of the others.
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Post by americangardener on Jul 17, 2009 5:37:41 GMT -5
Ok.. great.. I'll be glad to buy whatever you can grow of those peas Zac... course with the shipping of those being a big expense.. you might have to make them up into packages for me. As for peas crossing.. don't worry bout that.. they won't. Darn near impossible for those to cross on their own... the flowers don't even come close to opening before the pods are already forming.
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Post by flowerpower on Jul 17, 2009 6:28:30 GMT -5
Dave, I think its $10 cheaper to have the bags mailed to silverseed. Then he can mail me some in a "pay one price" box from the PO. It's the cheapest way to do it at the moment. So you order them this time. I do not have his addy. When you send seeds, include a list of exactly what quantity of each size package you want. And what should I do with the "extra" seed? Make more packs or just send it back with the rest. I'll grab a few hundred bags today while I am out. So I can get started. They won't go to waste. lol Alright.. i'll get something ordered here soon. Too bad i couldn't just send Zac some of my prepaid priotity mail envelopes... already stamped. I hardly ever use these and i've still got 10 or 15 left. They're from before the last rate increase.. but still it only costs me something like an extra 70 cents.. and i can get 3 lbs of beans or peas in there.. I can't even think of how many small baggies i could put in there. I have two thousand baggie boxes of the 2x3 inch ones left.. i know i could fit those both into a priority mail package.. maybe i'll just mail Zac a thousand of mine for now.. and some seeds to package along with those. So FP.. will a priority mail size packet fit in your large mailbox? I could probably find something to put in there for you to pack up and we'll order you some small size baggies later on if we need to. Like i said.. i'm still tinkering.. if i do decide to try my idea..it'll have to be in a big way.. i've got some research people getting me a quote on what i want.. and then if i do order from them it will most likely be in the hundreds of dollars just for those. But it'd be enough to make up over 70,000 sample packet sizes.. that's a whole 7 yearbooks! Dave, the proirity envelope will fit in my mailbox. You can send me whatever bags you have left & let the big order go to Zac. Do whatever is easiest right now. As for my Post Office, some people there have no clue. The relief lady was arguing with me about the Canadian zip code I was using. I think the letters in it confused her. lol I am gonna pm Jo in a few minutes. We'll brainstorm on the newsletter. I just need you to post a list of "member benefits" so we get it all in there. |
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Post by americangardener on Jul 17, 2009 7:08:58 GMT -5
Dave, the proirity envelope will fit in my mailbox. You can send me whatever bags you have left & let the big order go to Zac. Do whatever is easiest right now. As for my Post Office, some people there have no clue. The relief lady was arguing with me about the Canadian zip code I was using. I think the letters in it confused her. lol I am gonna pm Jo in a few minutes. We'll brainstorm on the newsletter. I just need you to post a list of "member benefits" so we get it all in there. Well that's good news... Yeah i have all kinds of problems with the postal workers here too. They won't pick up priority mail envelopes anymore. Not like they used to do.. i used to be able to mail them from home no matter what weight.. all i had to do was call them by 2 am in th morning and they'd pick it up.. now.. they have some rule if it's over something like 14 ounces it has to be hand delivered to the post office. Oh they'll still pick em up for a $19.95 extra fee.. but they are real picky if i do go over the 14 ounce limit here. They'll pick it up.. take it to the post office.. weight it.. and then bring it back and put it in my mailbox 3 days later with a note telling me i have to hand deliver it to the post office. Idiotic rule if you ask me.. if i were gonna send a bomb in the mail.. it wouldn't make any difference if i mailed it from home or if i hand delivered it to the post office.. it'd still blow up when it wasn't in my mailbox. And if you think bout it.. if i were a terrorist and wanted to send a bomb or anthrax.. well.. i'd much rather hand deliver it to the post office anyways... it'd be stupid to mail a bomb from my own mailbox. Idiotic rules i tell ya.. all they're trying to do is milk the public for even more money.. and all they're doing is making it harder on those pick up and delivery people who have to make two trips.. one to pick it up.. and one to bring it back, instead of making it easier on them. But oh well.. what can you do... they're not capable of running a profitable business and they'll be gone in a few years anyways. I think what i'll do is see how many of those old priority mail envelopes i can find with the prepaid postage on em.. and send Zac a couple of em folded inside the one i do mail him. Then at least he'd have a couple of em to mail back the finished packages in. It might be enough to get us started. The rest of it i'll fill with those beans you wanted Zac.. i'm sorry it's taking so long to mail those.. just i want to send a whole packet full of stuff.. and not just the trial seeds. I'm gonna try and put together 20-30 tomato varieties i can have you start working on packing up. I know there are at least that many where i have pounds of seeds. I'm only gonna send you a few teaspoons of each.. just enough to make up say a hundred packets for each variety. Now.. we just need to get you some labels to put inside there that are professional looking... or at least as professional looking as i can without getting stupid and wasting money on the packaging that is just gonna get thrown away anyways. We'll get you some labels or at least a template so you can print some out. Dave |
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Post by americangardener on Jul 17, 2009 8:53:15 GMT -5
I am gonna pm Jo in a few minutes. We'll brainstorm on the newsletter. I just need you to post a list of "member benefits" so we get it all in there. Sorry to be answering your post in sections.. but i haven't even gotten that far yet. You all are gonna have to brainstorm on what i should offer as benefits to the members. Aside from me making up the sample booklets to give to every board member i haven't decided on how to get every member every variety. That's my goal.. your goal is to make em happy. I'm thinking of offering them one spot a year on an ad board that the public section where they can sell or auction off anything they want. Access to the members area where they can contact and trade.. sell whatever with any other member. They can pay reduced handling fees for the trial packets.. say at a 60% discount over what we'd charge the people from the public section would pay. And yes i want the public to be involved in the trialing. There are some things that i've read about SSE.. and i happen to agree with them. There are some things about SSE that i would like to change. One is eliminating the only being alowed to sell to other members. That's why the ad board on the main public site. I want them to be able to sell to anyone in the world they want to sell to. As you all know.. that system SSE has set up dosen't meet the legal standards for members to sell to the public. I see no reason why if they don't have to follow the laws about germination testing when selling to other members that we should have to worry bout it either. As for the auction or sale board.. well i see no reason why i should have to follow any laws that ebay dosen't have to follow. Or any other auction site for that matter. We're covered there.. i checked with the legal department and he said it was ok. Everything we're doing is as legal or more legal than any other seed company. Are our germination tests performed in a laboratory under ideal conditions? Nope.. but i can bet you Jerre dosen't pay over a hundred dollars to send each of his varieties to a lab either. I can find you hundreds of websites selling seeds that don't send theirs to a lab too.. so am i worried about not following a law that no one else follows.. well, maybe just a bit. But, i do germination tests on everything that goes up for sale.. and i keep records to prove it. You won't get that on ebay. Oh well.. i'm sidetracking again. You guys do the brainstorming on this one. I want you to fix that poll thing on the top of this thread. Make me up something where people can give suggestions as to what membership should have. Only makes sense to me.. to ask what we should offer. After all those are the people we're gonna be wanting for members.. ask em what will make them happy.. then we'll do that. You may have to judge any contests or anything if you do make something like that up for the website or newsletter.. Just tell me what i need to work on.. such as the trial packets or the database.. which i'm just gonna use SSE's system of identifying members... or the ad page for the public.. or anything else that comes up. I'll figure out the types of memberships and all that later. I guess either a 6 month membership or a year, or a lifetime. The lifetime ones i want to make up the sample booklets of every varietie i have in my inventory... but that might take me a couple years. So.. what i'm thinking is a book of 1000 tomato varieties in the small one dozen seed size packets. Haven't figured out what i should charge em for it.. but make it as cost or something. Dosen't cost me anything for the seeds.. it'll just cost me to have the thing made. It costs more in small run batches than if i make em up in 1000's. Least the per packet cost is more. But for now i can't afford to do more than one booklet of more than a thousand. When we get going we'll offer them discounts on all our vegetable sample size booklets. Least that's my plan... but first things first.. lets ask em what they want. Dave |
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Post by americangardener on Jul 17, 2009 9:05:52 GMT -5
Forgot to mention on the types of memberships.. have it trial voulenteers, growers memberships, and possibly suppliers memberships. You know for people who want to just have access to our seedsaving community to sell something else. Say like crafts or something. I dunno.. you can help me there too i guess. Ask in the newsletter if you want.
I don't know if i'd go with the different pay scales SSE does either.. maybe offer a senior and disabled membership at a reduced price.. maybe not. Maybe we should know what we're gonna charge for membership first. Oh well.. sorry i just haven't gotten that far ahead in my planning FP... i'll need some input first.
Dave
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Post by americangardener on Jul 17, 2009 11:00:58 GMT -5
Jo.. that last template you sent will work fine for the labels i want people to send back along with tomato seeds for me to ferment. I can use it for that.. just will need a line on the back for descriptions.. that if you can see the picture of something wrapped around the yardstick is what i was planning to use as an insert. and then make the entire packets out of sticky pad paper with full sticky on the back or some other label type material. However if it's stickier than a sticky pad page it wouldn't work to have the insert in there.. least not printed anyways. It'd get stuck to the label. The reason i experimented with it being inside the tent fold label in the first place was because it'd give more assurance that the baggie wouldn't blow off of a yardstick if anyone wanted to use it that way.. and because it would keep the seeds from squishing out onto the glued part of the inside of the packet. Only spot i'd have to worry bout with seeds sticking to the sticky paper would on the very top.. and that shouldn't cause any problems. Least none that i couldn't fix easy enough if i had to. So.. i figure if i was gonna use a liner inside the label then i'd get as much use out of it as i could... now that would only be on tomato varieties.. but i can use that in my experimental packaging and we could always put one inside a packet of tomato seeds.
But,, it's not exactly what i was looking for.. for one i need the print to be readable when the label is standing upright inside a baggie on a stick. Means the labels would have to be tall tent fold labels to serve that purpose.. and the dimensions for that would have to be 6 inches high at the very most.. even as short as 5 inches will still work. And then i need it to be 2" wide or less. That's it.. that's the size of the insides of a 2x3 inch baggie and we can't change that. We need labels that fit within that dimension. Won't matter what type of veggie.. we'll be using millions of 2x3 baggies and we'll need them all the same size. For larger size packets later on.. well those of course we can use larger labels or print them onto label stock and paste it on the front of a larger coin envelope or something.. possibly even plastic ziplocs. But most likely those one pound coffee bean bags if i can find em cheap enough. Perhaps make a label that would cover over a window bag.. you've seen those before i'm sure.. the regular coffee bags with a window like in a window envelope so that you can see the beans inside. Maybe make something that will work with those. Cause for larger seeds like beans.. i'm most likely not gonna mess around with anything smaller unless it's a ten seed trial sample; and those i can use a 1 1/2 x 2 baggie for. Then we'll have to just use a single sheet label that'd fit inside there.. printed on both sides or a tent fold with two 1 1/2" wide by 4 inch or less sized label areas to print on.. then folded in half and put inside.
Case you haven't covered all the messages while you were away.. i did decide the labels are going inside the baggies. Those other than the experimental ones i'm working on out of sticky photo paper are what we'll be using for all our seeds we ship out. They are designed to fit inside for many reasons.. one the inks used in copiers are like water color paint. If those packets are used outside or get wet in any way.. well then we'll have some pissed off customers cause they can't read the labels. And second reason is cause it's designed to double as a plant marker when used over a ruler, stick or piece of ventian blind like i use. Those packets.. even without any modification will last for years as a plant marker if someone wanted to use it that long. Not that anyone has to think about the environment.. they can throw the entire package away for all i care once they buy it.. but it's designed to be used as a plant marker. That's why i'm stuck with the dimensions. It has to fit inside a ziploc or it dosen't work. Has to be designed so that the print is right side up when looking at it on a marker or it dosen't work. And other than that.. all it has to do is have our inventory number on each individual variety along with the variety name and description. That dosen't require glue.. dosen't require anything other than regular printer paper and ink in a cartridge. No need whatsoever to use that on label stock.. it's far more expensive and far more risky for getting angry complaints if anyone so much as spills a drop of coffee on the labels.. All of em are going inside unless we make em up special for pound bags or something larger.
Dave
TOM----- Variety name
Fermented by: UNIQUE SEEDBANK, INC.
WWW._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _.ORG
WEEK OF_ _ _ _ _ 2009/2010 GERMINATION TESTED @____ %
GROWN BY: Unique Seedbank INC. Harvested:_________
Email: american_gardener@usa.com
As you can see i made some modifications.. The grown by is just for an example.. when people send these in to be fermented by me.. then they will fill out their own contact info and harvest date. Now since i wanted these to be a double fold over the seed when in the packets.. they can be as long as almost 4 inches and printed the horizontal direction. but to work for an insert they have to be a specific height. I'm not sure what it works out to be.. but i think it's about 2.5 inches high. It can vary somewhat.. but not by much. It has to be used as a barrier between the seeds and the sticky.. not that the sticky would hurt anything if the seeds weren't seperated from it.. just that i don't think people would accept that without a liner in there. Now if we just use these inside a tent fold inside a ziploc and don't use any sticky paper for packaging.. then we could make em any size to fit in a 2x3 baggie... and print in any direction.
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Post by americangardener on Jul 17, 2009 11:44:46 GMT -5
Ok.. now Jo.. if i'm buggin ya too much let me know. As i already mentioned in other posts.. i'm gonna need alot of writing done. Anyway you can organize that? I'll need articles made up that can be used in the newsletter.. but also that can be used on the website asking for trial voulenteers.. cept this year as mentioned there will be a processing and handling fee for each trial packet i send out to voulenteers. Maybe a quarter of 50 cents or whatever it works out to be. And i need writers to put together growing instructions for every type of vegetable.. i want that for the website.. so that anyone can go and look up how to grow whatever it is that they buy from us.. even if they don't buy it from us.. just general instructions on how to grow what. And then since we're into seedsaving and promoting that it's almost imperative that we have seed saving instructions and isolation distance info and breeders tips and all that on the website. I need writers for that. Won't need a whole lot of writing on the seed packets.. there the customer will get a photo and a description and the rest is all the same info on every label. Maybe if someone wanted to work on the database so that we'd have the info to plug into the labels it would be nice. But, if i have to i can work on the entering info into the inventory database... and whatever i can get done.. well that's whatever we can start packaging and selling. So maybe i will need some help if anyone wants to help with that. And i want ads made up. Something i can put in the back of Family Circle in the ads.. say one free trial variety of our choice for those who send a SASE and a quarter for processing fee. Give em a limit of 8 or so.. i'm saying eight cause that's how many 2x3 packets i can make out of a sheet of paper. Could go all the way up to 36 if i do a sheet of sample packets. So maybe make it for $5 P+H and i could fit as many as three sheets of 36 into one 44 cent first class envelope. If they want to trial that many.. what's that.. 108 varieties for $5.. that to me should get some new customers to our site. And i want promo material made up to send out with every order.. telling them bout our website.. our unique way of doing business.. and our newsletter.. and a price list.. of course i'd want those made up of some things we have pounds of seeds for and just a short seasonal list to get their interest and a mail in order blank on there for those who perfer to do business by mail. Course they can find more on the website.. but we can't afford to print up a catalog right now.. we'll have to make due with a short price list and something to get their interest to go to the site and check it out. So, as you can see.. i've got plenty of writing projects that need to be done. And i just don't have time to personally write everything before the grand opening.
If i have to do everything i will... just that if i can get help from other people.. well you know how much more you can get done working as a team than you can alone. That's why i need people who can write.. or sing or dance.. i need people to help with every phase of the business right now.
Dave
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Post by americangardener on Jul 17, 2009 12:12:36 GMT -5
Ok.. now i'm just gonna throw this out there for comments. As you all know i'm in need of a logo to put on packagaing, letterheads and the website.. that kind of stuff. Anyways.. what do you all think of having a contest to pick the logo? I have one logo Angie designed for back when we were going with the name Everyones seeds. And that might still work.. and i have some ideas of my own someone could work up if they have some sort of graphics programs. My idea is that since we're now a Seedbank instead of a seed companie.. we should tailor our packaging along those lines.. in case you missed it Jo.. i wanted to put values on the packets.. not prices. And that i could make look like monopoly money or something. Anyways.. back to the logo... again along the same theme. My idea is to have a safe... you know.. safe..vault.. bank? Anyone following along here? Anyways.. a safe means nothing by itself.. Our initials are now U.S. Put that on the safe somehow. Since i don't see fitting an entire name on the logo as pratical. then.. instead of money falling out of an open vault door.. i'd like to see seed packets falling out... sort of like a cornocopia thing. Course with the graphics of our seed packets looking like monopoly money.. i suppose it could look like demonations of bills spilling out of a safe too. And that's bout it for my idea.. i'd like the website address printed underneath the logo on everything we make up too.. as if part of the logo.
Ok.. what say you? Anyone got better ideas? You know i'm not married to my idea.. i'll go with whatever is most popular with everyone.
Dave
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 17, 2009 12:41:49 GMT -5
I still think you should change the name to seedtrain, and the logo could be a train driving by throwing seeds into a full bloom feield lol.
seriously though you dont need the same name for the company as the website, the website should have a EASY name to spell. Like baker creek heirlooms seeds. is rareseeds. So your unique seedbank (i forget sorry) so when you go to seedtrain.com or something else as catchy and EASY to remember easy to tell a friend about also, they will end up at unique seeds, at seedtrain.com . A little thing like that can make a huge difference. many people are lazy. How many people do you think made it to baker creek simply because rareseeds.com is so easy to remember. last year they said they had 30,000 plus costumers, now they say over 70,000. I have no doubt maybe 1,000 or 2,000 wouldnt have gotten to their site had it been bakercreekheirloomseeds.com
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Post by americangardener on Jul 17, 2009 13:19:14 GMT -5
Sorry.. the name is set.. no more name changes.. deal with it. I don't have time to be debating over names now.. it's got to be picked and i picked it from all those who responded way back when i asked for help picking names... seems mine was the only entry. I don't have another 6 months to wait for another entry. It's been picked already. I like the image of the train and all that though Zac.. might of been a contender if you had been helping last winter. But maybe will use that imagery somewhere else. Yes i know all about website names too Zac.. we'll take any website address we can get that is easy for customers to remember.. if not UniqueSeedbank.com.. then some variation of our company name that will work in there and still be memorable. The site itself we're not gonna use the logo and name of www.you're here.com. We're sticking with the company name on a site where our company sells things.. that's all. And just so you know.. the reason most people find baker creek is because of the idig forumn. Do you have any idea how many search engines hit on that every single day??? whenever anyone is searching for any info at all about any plant at all? There's where they get the initial contact from new customers.. that's a forumn though.. not a website.. slight distinction there i know.. that's exactly what i'm gonna have in my members area too.. i'll have a forumn just like that for all my membership.. just it won't be searchable by the public. And believe me i know all the problems of having catch words in the website design. I've got to figure out a way to write things using the words germplasm, accession, cultivar, land race, breeder, and every other possible word you could think of that a person interested in saving seeds might use for a seach term. While i'm selling to the public Zac.. i'm also gonna be dealing with my own membership too. If they get lost on their way back to the forumn.. well i guess that'll be their problem. I don't know how many times i lost my bookmarks for here back when i had computer problems.. this site isn't easy to find again either unless you know how to look for it. But, i'm thinking people will know how to find me. After all the website is gonna be printed on every piece of literature i mail out. Even invoices. They'll find me.. i'm not to worried about that. |
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