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Post by mnjrutherford on Jul 17, 2009 14:48:51 GMT -5
Where do the initials U.S. come from?
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Post by americangardener on Jul 17, 2009 14:55:08 GMT -5
Where do the initials U.S. come from? Unique seedbank Jo. Unless i'm wrong that makes it U.S. when abreviated. There's no law that says we have to have the INC or company as part of our name on logos and artwork.. just in business transactions. I suppose it could be U.S. Inc just not to confuse anyone.. but i thought that would of been obvious. Dave |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Jul 17, 2009 15:38:38 GMT -5
 Yep, I figured that out right after I posted the reply. LOL tell me I didn't feel dumb! Also, still haven't read everything, but I've got a better understanding and grasp of the deal with the envelop/label/packet. I'm not sold on the idea yet. I haven't made it work in my head just yet but I'm working on it. Meanwhile, what about fabric seed bags? Just plain muslin. It could be washed, starched, and printed just like a piece of paper. I'm not crazy about that idea either because of the time involved with sewing little bags... LOGO - I think it should be simple... simmering on back burner DOMAIN NAME/ADDRESS - You need to nail this down pronto! Web name could be uniqueseed.com That is currently available at $14.99 from Go Daddy. I really like USeed, but com, net, and org were all on back order. hmmm.... ok, We also need a mission statement and a vision statement and goals. Did I say this already? I suggested last night to Lynn, that we make a northern road trip and the three of us along with whomever else could pow wow on the matters at hand in person. As long as we are camping and the guys can go fishing, I'm free to work on this project. What do you think? Besides, I want Mike to see some of the northerlies before his vision deteriorates more drastically. From anywhere between the two of you, we can loop around to Niagara Falls. I really want him and the boys to see that!
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Post by mnjrutherford on Jul 17, 2009 15:41:58 GMT -5
Would have been obvious to ANYone else!  If you like to win, I'm the person to play Blokus with! |
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Post by americangardener on Jul 17, 2009 17:02:39 GMT -5
Yep, I figured that out right after I posted the reply. LOL tell me I didn't feel dumb! Also, still haven't read everything, but I've got a better understanding and grasp of the deal with the envelop/label/packet. I'm not sold on the idea yet. I haven't made it work in my head just yet but I'm working on it. Ok my thinking on this is that since the labels are designed to fit inside a baggie.. that they'll work for now. Then the prototype i'm making is the same size.. if i can get these on waterproof paper stock for outdoor labels and still get em where they're removable and resealable.. which i could.. then i can make my packaging out in mass. take the papers.. lay em out.. put seeds on em.. lay the top sheet and just lay a book on top of them and they'll seal themselfs. It'd be way faster than filling baggies. And since we won't need the baggies any more for shipping we'll be able to reduce shipping costs and just tell people to buy their own baggies to use for label covers if they want. But it's a reduction in labor, and a reduction in shipping expenses i have to weigh against getting my packaging custom ordered like i need it. I'm crazy.. i'm asking them to put a seperator sheet in between the top and bottom sheets instead of each side having it's own backing... if possible i'm gonna get the bottoms with just blank so that we can use that side to photocopy on and have the side with stickum on the back of it imprinted... or maybe it'd be cheaper to do that in reverse now that i think bout it.. leave the tops blank and make the bottoms imprinted on the backside. Well.. that's the reason for the size anyways Jo.. i have other plans.. and i need to be able to switch over without shutting down production to do it. For my prototypes everything is being designed to fit into the ziplocs.. and that's where i'm at with that.. if we do go with weatherproof label material.. well then go crazy and make em any size you want. I still have to worry bout shipping weight too.. so we'll have to cross that bridge when we get to it. For now.. tent fold 6 inch tall labels for the 2x3's. I'll have a cd of the template sent to you or whoever wants to tie it in with a database program. Something where we can use one template for everything.. all i want to change on those will be the type, variety, and descriptions.. size, value, our website, and company name i'll want preprinted on whatever it is we do use for material.. as i said.. can't use em outside with inkjet printers.. and i wouldn't want to even try it on a supposedly weather proof label if i don't have to. And because you guys have no idea how long it takes to make photocopies of thousands of labels. It's much cheaper in the long run to get whatever we can keep the same on all of them imprinted. We may have to see bout getting a local printer to give us a quote down by you when we get ready to do the switchover Zac. But, first we have to get the designs and all that worked out. Just know there is a reason behind everything i do. It may not be obvious to everyone else.. but i'm always planning on how i can cut costs.. how i can make things more effectient.. and how it will be accepted by someone else. I always try to find more than one use for everything.. and you'll probably notice it as we go along. Same reason i want the web address on everything.. and i want promo material to send out in every order and all those other things. Ok.. now that i've got you so tired you can't read any more.. well.. lets see bout that Muslin bag thing. How much would that cost to make? I get organza bags by the hundreds.. something like $6-10 per hundred including shipping. Can you make those cheaper than that? And if so.. will they last as long? My sister seems to think people will be throwing them away.. don't know why.. but that's what she said. That's why i like the organza bags i use now.. they make a great package for the beans and peas and larger seeds like that. I think i could attach a label to em or have some way to imprint those. And since they make great isolation bags.. people would save those to use on their tomato blossoms, or squash or whatever they could find. I just use them for tomatoes.. but i can see where people would at least use it for something. And as i said.. i thought 10 cents a packet was fairly cheap. I know i could handwrite every one of them if that's what it takes with a laundry marker.. that's what i do now anyways.. but it would be quicker if we could get some kind of stencil made up and just stencil em ourselfs. Again... me with my bank thing... i know you've all seen those bags of money with the $$ signs on them... well bet you can't guess where i'm going with that. Thanks so much for looking that up.. now.. is this gonna be suitable for what i'm gonna need? I know nothing but setting up websites really. Know what i want. I want the public section as i said.. where we sell and promote things.. maybe some contests and giveaways or whatever.. and then the members section. You know i could pretty much do everything we want to do with just a forumn. I could get some people to help run it and act as moderators.. i'm familiar with running forumns more than i am with website setups.. and all that. So,.. how easy would it be to set up a forumn.. and a Homepage for the company with a link that just goes to the forumn. It would mean setting up two sites simultaneously.. but i could help out on the forumn part more than the actual building of the homepage part. Anyways.. make up my mind for me.. what do i need in the way of Domain names? And is GoDaddy gonna be able to handle me selling tens of thousands of items and having a shopping cart and all that? I'll go with whatever you suggest.. you know more than i do bout that stuff. worldwidegardenseeds.blogspot.com/Well i'm embarassed to say i never spent the time to finish it.. but there's the draft. Mission and vision statements are there somewhere. Don't know.. i like camping.. but i need to work too. Let me think bout it.. sounds like a great idea though. Dave |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Jul 17, 2009 20:28:38 GMT -5
TYVEK! OUR "LABELOPES" SHOULD BE MADE OF TYVEK!
OR an equivalent material. You could prolly get envelopes premade. Cheap, lightweight, durable, weatherproof, print-on-able, would the inks fade? I'm not positive but I don't think so.
That right there may be the answer!
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Post by fulenn on Jul 17, 2009 20:51:24 GMT -5
Okay, Dave, I've been lurking, reading, and emailing you a bit the past couple of days. Now I'd like to volunteer to help with your writing if I may. Let me know if I could help a bit.
Fulenn
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Post by americangardener on Jul 17, 2009 21:16:35 GMT -5
TYVEK! OUR "LABELOPES" SHOULD BE MADE OF TYVEK! OR an equivalent material. You could prolly get envelopes premade. Cheap, lightweight, durable, weatherproof, print-on-able, would the inks fade? I'm not positive but I don't think so. That right there may be the answer! I've thought of that.. the only thing is i wouldn't want someone to have to have a jack hammer to open the packet. Might be something we could check into as for prices.. i know i can find a way to use it to make envelopes.. just i don't want to be spending more time on making envelopes than we do on filling them. I don't recall ever seeing anything in the size i'd want to use. I've seen all kinds of tyvek envelopes that they use to ship catalogs in.. and that's why i say i wouldn't want customers to need a jack hammer.. those things when shut.. stay shut. Practically need a blow torch and a pry bar to open the ones i've seen.. and you can't rip em.. you have to lift the flap.. and it don't want to be lifted. Maybe there is a product that is premade to our sizes that we could use... that dosen't use super glue to close em. If we could find something comparable in price to the ziplocs.. well they'd look more professional once all printed up with the label info on em.. but at what cost? And there are gonna be plenty of people who will throw tyvek away. No one is gonna think of using it as a plant marker on their own.. so we'd still have to design it for that purpose and inform the customers how to do it. It'd still have to be printed with the variety name on the bottom of the envelope.. we would just have to have them printed upside down to do that. So that the bottom part was the one to be opened. But, If we're just gonna go with throw away packets.. well the coin envelopes would probably be cheaper at around 2-3 cents each. And then that i've already figured out it'd be cheaper to make our own labels and use ziplocs even if you calculated in the cost of the ink, reams of paper and the extra labor cost. And you can't put a coin envelope on a marker stick. Least not without a ziploc cover and being printed the right way. And then we're just back to shipping plastic baggies again. You can check into the tyvek if you want.. let me know what's available and what the costs are.. and it's quite possible we could utilize it for some of the larger seed packets.. say like pound of beans or peas or whatever for the heavier seeds. That is if it's cost effective. I do like the idea of the strenght and durability of it.. so i'm still open to it.. just i don't know the details yet. If we do end up making our own envelopes out of it.. i'd want to know if we should use that fabric mend glue on it to seal the packets or what we'd need to use for adhesives. We'd have to figure out that in the descion too... just any extras that might be needed to produce the packets. How we could imprint on it i don't know yet.. i've never tried running any thru my copier.. but i can tell already it won't work. My copier has a hard time even grabbing hold of a piece of paper to run it thru.. it likes it thicker.. like label paper.. then no problems.. but i could see that tyvek would be alot slipperyier and thiner. I know i couldn't copy onto it even if the ink does stick. If i have to hand paint every packet.. i can tell ya.. i'm not gonna do it. |
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Post by americangardener on Jul 17, 2009 21:24:40 GMT -5
Okay, Dave, I've been lurking, reading, and emailing you a bit the past couple of days. Now I'd like to volunteer to help with your writing if I may. Let me know if I could help a bit. Fulenn Jo.. see that.. we got our first victim.. i mean helper. Do you want to arrange work for Fulenn to write some things or would you rather i assigned projects. I'm thinking you'll know more about what you need written to get the newsletter done. And if you can't use the help.. well i can find plenty of writing things i'd want done for the website and the descriptions and stuff. Anyways... Fulenn.. thank you.. we'll take all the help we can get. Dave |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Jul 17, 2009 21:36:27 GMT -5
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Post by americangardener on Aug 4, 2009 11:53:57 GMT -5
Whooo whoo.. finally got the application for filing the articles of incorporation in the mail today. I know i'm way behind schedule on this part.. but it won't be long now. I'll be in business in no time.
Dave
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mostlypurple
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Post by mostlypurple on Aug 4, 2009 14:59:30 GMT -5
I can write copy. I'd be willing to take on-going assignments. Web content, newsletter features, detailed instructions....Count me in. what's it pay? Do you still need investors? Are all board seats taken? I don't know if you've settled on anybody yet, but if you're still looking for a web host and/or developer, I know of a small enterprise, where the owner is an excellent problem solver when it comes to listening to what the client wants, even helping the client figure out what he wants, not just pushing products. www.gcshost.com. (he's in mid-michigan) fyi, it's my bro. He's not part of this forum though. I don't know if he'd consider stock as compensation, might need a little explainin'. I'll talk to him this weekend. |
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Post by americangardener on Aug 4, 2009 15:10:13 GMT -5
I can write copy. I'd be willing to take on-going assignments. Web content, newsletter features, detailed instructions....Count me in. what's it pay? Do you still need investors? Are all board seats taken? I don't know if you've settled on anybody yet, but if you're still looking for a web host and/or developer, I know of a small enterprise, where the owner is an excellent problem solver when it comes to listening to what the client wants, even helping the client figure out what he wants, not just pushing products. www.gcshost.com. (he's in mid-michigan) fyi, it's my bro. He's not part of this forum though. I don't know if he'd consider stock as compensation, might need a little explainin'. I'll talk to him this weekend. Yes to everything.. i haven't gotten the stock certificates yet.. that will take a couple weeks. It's all got to be done by snail mail. I'll take all the help i can get.. especially with the website. I'd love to have a website like Jays.. i don't know how many times i've said that. But i can't do it. I don't have the skills. I can get the domain name right this minute.. but i don't know what the heck i'm doing even ordering that... I guess just go with whatever is cheapest. I need help with everything.. i got maybe two angels that are helping me out right now. i can always use more. Of course i got no money coming in right now to pay anyone.. and i'd love to have some investors too. I got one other person besides myself as an investor. And he can only spare $100 per month. I can only spare $350 a month myself.. it'll take me forever to get it set up without more money. Anyways.. thanks... give me whatever help you can. Dave |
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Post by americangardener on Aug 4, 2009 15:20:16 GMT -5
Ok.. since i'm here now.. anyone want to suggest how many authorized shares i should start out with? I have the choice between 60,000 shares and 1,000,000 and i can set them at whatever issue price i want. The cap for the entire price is one million dollars though.. so whatever it is.. say something like 100,000 shares at $10 each or one million shares at one dollar each.. it can't go over 1 million dollars total for the issue prices.
Hope i explained that ok.. anyways.. my thoughts are to go with 100,000 at 10 each. That to me would make the bookeeping easier.. but i have the chance to purchase up to a million shares at whatever price now for the same price my cost. $100.. no matter how i work that out. It's gonna be the same cost to purchase them. I got other application fees besides that.. and i'd like to keep the grand total as low as possible. the other option would be to go with 1-60,000 shares for $50.
Any ideas?
Dave
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mostlypurple
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Post by mostlypurple on Aug 4, 2009 15:47:46 GMT -5
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Yep, I figured that out right after I posted the reply. LOL tell me I didn't feel dumb! Also, still haven't read everything, but I've got a better understanding and grasp of the deal with the envelop/label/packet. I'm not sold on the idea yet. I haven't made it work in my head just yet but I'm working on it. 
If you like to win, I'm the person to play Blokus with!
