Perennial grain project update

[MikeH]

Michel,

Can you update me as to where things are with this project? I have some of Tim's seed that I got from Patrick and some of his seed that Adaptive Seeds sells. I've also stumbled across ARS-GRIN accessions and Leibniz Institute of Plant Genetics and Crop Plant Research accessions.

Regards,
Mike

[bunkie]

hey mike, silverseeds sent me this link and i thought you might be interested ...i ordered a couple perennials to experiment with....

oikostreecrops.com/store/product.asp?numRecordPosition=8&P_ID=863&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=118

as far as the perennial rye project, last year was my first harvest from all three types. i have to admit, i saw no difference from the Mountaineer rye i planted in 2008 to the trial ryes. i will have to take a better look at each one come this spring when they come up, and thru their growing period. they were all the same height, and produced very similar heads. the amount of Ergot was even smaller than the first year in 2008. i will post pics later.

[canadamike]

To be quite frank, the project became the initiatives of each one working on it and there was no follow up.

When I came back from France with Tom, things happened, most of the ol'ones here know, my life changed dramaticly, I left for France married and came back alone, times got very very tough, and I had no mental nor financial ressources to take care of it, in fact taking care of myself was a challenge...this is the internet, I do not want to say more...

But one thing is sure, we knew it would be hard to get data back...it was more about dissipating the stuff to make people chose for themselves than expecting data.

We need money to make it possible. I used to spend 3-4000$ a year on mailings of seeds, now even 10% of this amount is unbearable for me.

And even 3-4000$ is way way too little to coordinate a ''scientific follow up effort''.

We have to rely on people. Most of them are french and not telling much, really, but I am sure they are doing a good job working on it.

One thing that BOTHERS ME A LOT, is that rye has toxicity as pasture before a pretty mature stage. I never heard of that before, and given the fact the perrennial rye produces so much hay, it is a question of importance..

Did the cross between secale montanum and secale cereale got rid of that toxicity?


Tim, it is time to come in...

[MikeH]

Some interesting wild grasses, bunkie. For next year, I think.

Yeh, Michel, it was my sense that individual effort, more or less, was where things were at. I've been chatting with Patrick and it seems that he's still taking things forward so I think I'll work with him. He's certainly been helpful in guiding me.

[Deleted]

I'd be interested in trialing some of Mr. Peter's perennial rye and wheat, but I can't seem to find his contact information anywhere. How would I reach him?

[samuk]

Hi I've been growing some perennial wheat for a few years, I believe it's from Tim Peters.

Is anyone else still growing it/ interested?

[philagardener]

Welcome, samuk ! Where are you growing these? It would be great to hear more about your experience with these lines.

[samuk]

I'm growing Eezer Thresh in Bristol UK. I've had some plants for three years, Twitter links don't seem to show up here. I'll break them below.

twitter. com/ permagriculture/status/1175431408250216448

twitter. com/ permagriculture/status/1175431260761710593

I do a very basic level of breeding, removing plants that don't yield well and letting winter kill happen.