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Post by steev on Mar 7, 2013 20:50:05 GMT -5
Jo, while they don't rattle, I think the almonds packed in your pan forte have lost viability.
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Post by blueadzuki on Mar 8, 2013 7:36:33 GMT -5
Jo, while they don't rattle, I think the almonds packed in your pan forte have lost viability. Most likey, but not certainly. I remember reading a Ripley's Believe it or Not column once to the effect that a person found an almond in thier Hershey bar had in fact germinated. You can take that or leave it. From personal experiance I can testify that on rare occasions I have managed to get seeds to germinate that were retrieved from places where what they had undergone should have killed them without question, like the Cassia seed (dont remember the species, but it's the one where the seeds look like little hearts or hand fans) one from the potpurri (the kind where they douse the bits in boling scent) the Mescal bean that germinated after being retrived from a necklace that it had been drilled to be strung on (more or less directly along the embryo) etc.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Mar 8, 2013 10:39:12 GMT -5
Life can find a way where there seems to be no way! Those almonds are just waiting to go into their "dust to dust" phase. LOLOL
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Post by steev on Mar 8, 2013 11:05:26 GMT -5
Dust to something, certainly.
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Post by castanea on Mar 9, 2013 13:37:06 GMT -5
Many people selling seeds on ebay are often worse than those on SSE. I can't even remember how many times I have received large seeds like squash, beans or corn that have been completely pulverized because there was no padding of any kind.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Mar 9, 2013 15:20:32 GMT -5
Typically, ignorance is only bliss for the practitioner. :/
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Post by zeedman on Mar 11, 2013 2:03:55 GMT -5
Personally, I think the problem of bad trades in general is not unique to SSE, or to ebay, or any other group per se. IMO, the relationship between the traders is more significant than the group they belong to. Dissatisfaction with a trade (whether about quantity, germination, or shipping damage) is more likely to happen anytime a swap takes place between complete strangers. When you know & respect the person you are trading with, you tend to treat them better. Over the years, I've had about the same percentage of problems with SSE exchanges as I've had with internet trades... or for that matter, with commercial vendors. Forum traders generally know each other better, have more experience in proper packaging, and try to make good on their trades; but that's not necessarily a given either. Think "seed trains" or "round robins", for example, and some of those horror stories. There are a few bad traders everywhere, and I wouldn't paint any group with a broad brush, due to a few bad apples. When I have a problem with an SSE exchange, the sender usually corrects the situation after I contact them... and contact them you should, because money was exchanged, and you have a right to expect fair value in return. Fortunately, that happens seldom. For my part, everything I send out - whether SSE exchange or trade - is packaged appropriately. But most of my collection is large seed, and I gotta tell you, the targeted postage hikes for bubble mailers really get under my skin... Over 200% increase in the last 10 years.
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Post by steev on Mar 11, 2013 23:06:14 GMT -5
Agreed about the postal increase, but consider: where I am, the last 30 years have seen gasoline prices increase 700%, minimum dump charge for green waste increase 700%, and what people will pay for my services increase 100%. I don't know about the dump fees, but the gasoline is subsidized with the taxes I pay on my declining income, let alone at the pump. Why is the petrochemical industry being fed corporate welfare at the expense of the national infrastructure? When there isn't money to maintain roads/highways, why is there money to prop up the most profitable industry in the history of the world? Why are my taxes going to them, while I have to pay to maintain the alignment, suspension, and tires on my truck, which are unduly deteriorated by unmaintained roadways? Isn't that double taxation, at the very least? Sorry if I sound irate, but this shit chaps my ass!
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Post by paquebot on Mar 12, 2013 1:38:35 GMT -5
Then something almost unique comes along. Received a request today for a tomato variety and the return address on the envelope was Shorewood, WI. However, the request form was for an entirely different gardener in Ohio. Form was filled out quite properly except that the requester had sent the form to WI LO J instead of WI LO M.
Martin
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Post by edwin on Mar 13, 2013 15:33:42 GMT -5
If anyone else sends me seeds, I'll be thrown out of my house. Fortunately we did not go to turkey. And fortunately we did not buy any seeds - because we didn't go. This means that you won't get an envelope with a bunch of seeds - such as black carrots, long seeded sunflowers, dill, egg plant, okra, honey squash, black cabbage. It isn't going to happen. And best of all you won't be thrown out of your house! So no need to check your mail.
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Post by 12540dumont on Mar 13, 2013 15:53:25 GMT -5
Darn, after that bean porn from Turkey, I was all excited. Leo knows my vices. I expect that he would never exile me. Who would cook and do the wash? It could be worse, I could be into drugs, instead of being a seed and Italian Machinery junkie. Besides, he's afraid that one of you would take me in....just for the seeds of course. Not for my weeding abilities! Off to harvest citrus. Sorry your Turkey adventure did not pan out.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Mar 13, 2013 19:05:43 GMT -5
Italian Machinery? ?
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Post by steev on Mar 13, 2013 22:38:53 GMT -5
Jo: BCS rototillers; some of us lust for them as others lust for BMW's or Morris Mini's. There's probably a subculture that lusts for a particular brand of lawnmower or hot-tub; really, I don't want to know about it!
Edwin: unfortunately, some of us (being unable to go to Turkey, ourselves; too much gardening to do, I suppose) were really looking forward to your return therefrom. Oh, well, I guess I must continue to be the apparently reigning expert on Trebizond Date; too bad for the rest of you, I assure you, as I know diddly that isn't anecdotal.
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Post by ferdzy on Mar 14, 2013 5:14:06 GMT -5
Uh, Edwin was strictly joking, if that wasn't clear. We did indeed go to Turkey and just got back yesterday. We even bought some seed! But we won't send any to Holly; no no no. She is on a seed diet. Well, maybe just a couple.
We were in a state of incoherent semi-consciousness yesterday. A 45 minute wait in the custums inspection line-up for people declaring agricultural products did not help. Of course, they looked at our packets and said, Yup! Those are allowed! and we were done in 30 seconds. Unlike all the people they made to completely unpack and repack their suitcases. Oh yeah and our connecting flight out of Newark was cancelled.
We didn't bring back any beans, unfortunately, although we did see quite a few. Not quite up to the spread in the pictures above. We saw the beans mostly in the middle part of our trip when we thought we would see them again, and were also very ill at the time. Nor did we make it Trabizon, and we saw no Trebizond dates, so you are indeed still the reigning expert, Steev.
Once I have my photos up and sorted I will no doubt put something up on my blog about the trip. Naturally there will be photos of veggie markets, veggies and other food.
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Post by 12540dumont on Mar 14, 2013 12:43:33 GMT -5
Edwin, I'm so gullible.
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