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Post by xdrix on Aug 13, 2021 15:37:45 GMT -5
I have my two shots and i have did pfizer!
In france we have unfortunately a movement anti vaccin.people are assemble together in the street without mask.The social network feed unfortunately this movement.
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Post by flowerbug on Aug 14, 2021 11:19:47 GMT -5
the anti-vaxers are big in the conservative side as people don't want the government telling them what to do, so they're opposed to it no matter what. both of my parents will not get the vaccine. silly of them.
sadly all of this has worked out for the worst as those who have had the vaccine are protected but enough of the rest of the population can still harbor and spread the virus so there are way too many chance for more mutations to happen.
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Post by steev on Aug 16, 2021 19:31:09 GMT -5
The real beauty of there being so many willing to expose themselves to the threat of covid is that they optimize its chances of mutation to even more virulent forms. their motto: Give me Liberty AND Give me Death!
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Post by xdrix on Aug 17, 2021 14:01:35 GMT -5
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Post by blueadzuki on Nov 15, 2021 17:36:16 GMT -5
I was simply pointing out that large parts of living in a post-apocalyptic society have to do not only with producing your own resources, but in being able to defend those resources. And that REALLY being prepared means not just being prepared to weather a period of instability, but in being able to handle things if it NEVER destabilizes. Real long term survival only works if you can get a pretty much totally closed economy, where you don't need ANY inputs of ANYTHING to keep functioning indefinitely. If there is any item that you need someone outside your group to produce, that is a weak link.
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Post by flowerbug on Nov 26, 2021 18:07:16 GMT -5
for those in the middle of one do you think it might as slow moving as our current experiences? i sure do hope things improve, but in the short term it certainly looks to be pretty messy. thank goodness for gardening and friends.  hold tight. |
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Post by imgrimmer on Jan 17, 2022 3:38:54 GMT -5
I was simply pointing out that large parts of living in a post-apocalyptic society have to do not only with producing your own resources, but in being able to defend those resources. And that REALLY being prepared means not just being prepared to weather a period of instability, but in being able to handle things if it NEVER destabilizes. Real long term survival only works if you can get a pretty much totally closed economy, where you don't need ANY inputs of ANYTHING to keep functioning indefinitely. If there is any item that you need someone outside your group to produce, that is a weak link. This condition has never existed for a long time in human history. Even in prehistoric times, people were always in exchange and contact with sometimes distant regions. Even early humans were in constant exchange. Of course, much less than today, but humans were never isolated and the populations that did experience this collapsed in the long term. Periods of isolation and complete autarky are short-lived phenomena that did not last longer than a generation. Archaeologically, it is easy to trace how cultural phenomena moved from culture to culture and changed in the process, how goods were exchanged, ideas were spread. Even the Polynesians on the remote islands were not permanently isolated. a completely closed economy, where you don't need any input from outside, is not a long-term strategy and will lead to decline over time, whether in population genetic terms or in economic terms. Self-sufficiency is, in my view, a survival strategy but not a sustainable long-term state. |
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Post by flowerbug on Jan 17, 2022 10:33:46 GMT -5
we still need to figure out how to deal with space, what's the smallest viable colony, what will it need for how long, what can we do with recycling and how do we manage toxic wastes, given enough energy it should be theoretically possibly to recycle every little bit, but i wonder if we'll ever reach that level of sophistication. we still don't know what it takes to support ourselves on this huge planet, how are we going to cope with smaller spaces and fewer creatures?
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hold tight.