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Post by peppereater on Mar 4, 2008 14:25:48 GMT -5
Hi all, first time poster here, but I see lots of familiar faces!  Brandywine is my all time favorite, has been my must grow for 8 years. Two 'maters I didn't see mentioned that I thought were great are Arkansas Traveler and Super Marmande. SM was from Dollar General, but a truly great tomato for me. I didn't have good luck growing Delicious, only got a few small, bland tomatoes, but I always have a lot of weather related problems with most of my crop. I plan to keep growing it until I get a good taste of it. PV, oddly, the Wal Mart Gardens seed here is packed by Ferry Morse. It's always high quality. I've never seen any Heat Wave sold here in any stores. robin, another cheapy seed from Dollar General that would be a good sauce tomato is San Marzano. Mine made a delicious medium-early crop last year, but lost sweetness in extreme heat. |
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Post by MawkHawk on Mar 5, 2008 7:40:26 GMT -5
Hey, Dave, buddy! Great to see you here.
Which Brandywine are you referring to?
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Post by jtcm05 on Mar 5, 2008 8:28:07 GMT -5
There is only one TRUE Brandywine. ;D I believe Dave is referring to Sudduth's strain which we both grew last year.
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Post by kctomato on Mar 5, 2008 8:38:57 GMT -5
There is only one TRUE Brandywine. ;D I believe Dave is referring to Sudduth's strain which we both grew last year. If it is a "strain" ,by Dr C's defn, then that means Sudduth's would be an offshoot of Brandywine so it wouldnt be the "true" one.  |
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Post by peppereater on Mar 5, 2008 8:45:55 GMT -5
Heh heh, one post and I'm stirring up controversy!
Yeah, Sudduth's was the best tomato I ever tasted, but the standard Brandywine's were right there with 'em.
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Post by peppereater on Mar 5, 2008 9:28:27 GMT -5
BTW, let me say thanks to Alan, I'm impressed with the board you've got here.
Back to the 'maters, I'm really anxious to see how Stump and Omar's taste, I've seen tons of great comments on these.
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Post by jtcm05 on Mar 5, 2008 20:28:34 GMT -5
Controversy follows kc where ever he goes.  |
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Post by Alan on Mar 5, 2008 22:52:20 GMT -5
Thanks Peppereater, glad you enjoy the board and glad to have you here friend.
I've come to learn that controversy and gardening/farming just seem to go together for some reason or another.
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Post by MawkHawk on Mar 6, 2008 7:40:06 GMT -5
SOTW is excellent IMHO.
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Post by peppereater on Mar 6, 2008 10:44:55 GMT -5
It had better be, Mawk, I'm holding you personally responsible! ;D
Thanks for the welcome, Alan, you're doing a really good thing here.
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Post by kctomato on Mar 6, 2008 13:30:38 GMT -5
Controversy follows kc where ever he goes. only because your wife prefers you out of her hair! |
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Post by PapaVic on Mar 6, 2008 15:44:27 GMT -5
The way I understand it, Brandywine (the potato-leaf one with pink tomatoes) went from Dorris Sudduth Hill to Ben Quisenberry to Ken Ettlinger to Roger Wentling to Craig LeHoullier to Johnny's Selected Seed. Apparently it first appeared in the SSE Yearbook circa 1982. This is the one called "Brandywine Sudduth."
Red Brandywine (the regular-leaf one with red tomatoes) went from Tom Hauch to Steve Miller to SSE Yearbook circa 1988. I think this is the one called "Red Brandywine, Landis Strain."
It appears the other "strains" are various misnomers, mishmashes, hodpodges, cross-pollinations, actual or fabricated "sub-species," or outright frauds.
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Post by peppereater on Mar 6, 2008 17:02:46 GMT -5
Here's a claim from HeirloomSeeds: #110 - BRANDYWINE, RED 80 days - Our best selling tomato! First introduced in 1885 by Amish farmers in Chester County, Pennsylvania, the large vines produce fruit that are 8 oz. to Here's a claim from HeirloomSeeds: 1 pound in size and deep red in color. This excellent tasting tomato is very productive, and is our favorite! This is the original Red Brandywine, first offered by our company in 1989. Don't accept other companies version of this best selling tomato - we are the ONLY seed company offering Red Brandywine from our original select strain! Indeterminate vines. I had purchased this from HeirloomSeeds and wondered about the claim and the fact that it was not the Landis strain. A quick Google search just now took me to a quote from Craig LeHoullier at the Victory Seed site. Tom Hauch is with HeirloomSeeds, which I didn't know, so the claim is substantial. There is no mention at Heirloom or in Craig's article of the term "Landis." Here's Craig's article: www.victoryseeds.com/information/craig_brandywine.htmlIt's worth a read. |
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Post by jtcm05 on Mar 7, 2008 8:41:01 GMT -5
BTW, let me say thanks to Alan, I'm impressed with the board you've got here. Back to the 'maters, I'm really anxious to see how Stump and Omar's taste, I've seen tons of great comments on these. I grew Omar's Lebanese in 06 and don't remember being all that impressed with it other than the fact that it produced some huge fruit. This one was 30 oz.  |
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Post by PapaVic on Mar 7, 2008 10:05:12 GMT -5
I had purchased this (Red Brandywine) from HeirloomSeeds and wondered about the claim and the fact that it was not the Landis strain. A quick Google search just now took me to a quote from Craig LeHoullier at the Victory Seed site. Tom Hauch is with HeirloomSeeds, which I didn't know, so the claim is substantial. There is no mention at Heirloom(Seeds) or in Craig's article of the term "Landis." Pepper, it's my understanding the connection between the Red Brandywine sold by Tom Hauch at HeirloomSeeds and "Landis Strain" is the fact that Steve Miller was associated with (the administrator, I think) the Landis Valley Museum. As you can see from my post above, and from the LeHoullier article at Victory, the tomato went from Tom Hauch to Steve Miller to the SSE Yearbook. So, I'm assuming it picked up the "Landis" definer somewhere between Hauch and SSE. Bill Edit: JayTee, is there some way you could reduce the size of your pictures so they don't boot the rest of everyone's message margins way out to the right? |
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