ethin
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Plant Breeder and Graphic Designer in Cache Valley Utah, USDA Zone 4b
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Post by ethin on Dec 23, 2017 0:33:16 GMT -5
Might not be the best place to ask this. Does anyone here know what the average number of seeds per plant for shelling peas might be?
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Dec 23, 2017 1:33:49 GMT -5
K. i moved the purple podded parsley to it's own separate page and create a page for the green-podded parsley pea in it's original spot. Made some edits to the purple pod parsley page description and added links to the JIC pages for the parsley leaf trait.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Dec 23, 2017 1:35:07 GMT -5
Might not be the best place to ask this. Does anyone here know what the average number of seeds per plant for shelling peas might be? I thought the standard was 8? or 7-8? Maybe 9 at the most? Just guessing. I know Canoe (also goes by various other names) is unusual in that it has 12 peas per pod on average! edit: oops. guess i misread your question. Thought you meant per pod. Per plant i have no idea. I was under the impression that it varied widely depending a lot on factors such as how many pods per peduncle (1 vs 2 vs 3 vs 5!) and some debate whether hyper-tedril /semi-leafless plants produce more or less seed per plant based on sunlight coverage (some say more with some say more without). I imagine dwarf vs tall also has an effect...
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Post by steev on Dec 23, 2017 1:42:54 GMT -5
Are we talking seeds per plant, or seeds per pod? I rarely get four per pod, maybe two dozen per plant, at best.
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ethin
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Plant Breeder and Graphic Designer in Cache Valley Utah, USDA Zone 4b
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Post by ethin on Dec 23, 2017 2:41:17 GMT -5
Seeds per plant.
I asking 'cause I had a sneaky shelling pea that got it's self planted with the chickpeas this year, I figured since it outsmarted me I would let it stay. That one plant produced 223 seeds, I don't know what's average but that seems kinda high for one pea plant. Other than it's ability to manipulate humans and it's crazy seed production the only other distinguishing(or do I mean disturbing?) feature was that it had 4 or 5 stems.
I guess I need to keep track of it's line, see what else it can do.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Dec 23, 2017 3:01:43 GMT -5
Seeds per plant. Other than it's ability to manipulate humans and it's crazy seed production the only other distinguishing(or do I mean disturbing?) feature was that it had 4 or 5 stems. I guess I need to keep track of it's line, see what else it can do. Wow. Sounds interesting. Funny though, cause your description matches exactly what "Heavily-Branched" did in my patch this year. Mine had two tone pink flowers though (inherited from salmon-flowered). I didn't count seeds though, but it was "a butt load". lol. seriously the most productive pea plant in my garden this year i think. It stood out to me anyway, even when inter-planted with other unlabeled peas in an overgrown jumbled mess, so that says something. It seriously had 5 or six branches on it from the bottom. I did send you seed for that this fall did i not? If so, maybe you can trial them side by side as they sound eerily similar...
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ethin
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Plant Breeder and Graphic Designer in Cache Valley Utah, USDA Zone 4b
Posts: 214
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Post by ethin on Dec 23, 2017 3:22:44 GMT -5
I did send you seed for that this fall did i not? If so, maybe you can trial them side by side as they sound eerily similar... Yes. Pea brothers from different mothers.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Dec 24, 2017 12:59:58 GMT -5
Here is the example of where to find the "move page button" if you accidentally create a page in a weird spot you didn't mean to. Let me know if you can't see this in your accounts. I don't think you need to be an admin but who knows. if you do i can try and figure out how to make you guys one.
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Day
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When in doubt, grow it out.
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Post by Day on Dec 24, 2017 13:06:48 GMT -5
I love this project! I don't have anything to contribute, as it doesn't usually stay reliably cool enough to grow peas at my place, even in winter (for example, it's been 75 all week and will be back in the 80s by Thursday -_-) but boy do I love them, and should I ever end up in a more amenable pea growing climate I'll definitely be coming back to refer to this!
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Dec 24, 2017 14:49:45 GMT -5
I love this project! I don't have anything to contribute, as it doesn't usually stay reliably cool enough to grow peas at my place, even in winter (for example, it's been 75 all week and will be back in the 80s by Thursday -_-) but boy do I love them, and should I ever end up in a more amenable pea growing climate I'll definitely be coming back to refer to this! Thanks Day! Yeah, it's an experiment of sorts. Who knows, maybe it will garner interest in something similar with squash or something else.. no idea...
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Post by philagardener on Dec 24, 2017 23:11:58 GMT -5
Here is the example of where to find the "move page button" if you accidentally create a page in a weird spot you didn't mean to. Let me know if you can't see this in your accounts. I don't think you need to be an admin but who knows. if you do i can try and figure out how to make you guys one. OK - I see that now. I have the Move selection. So you know, Delete and Protect don't show (and that's fine by me) - must be admin functions for obvious reasons.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Dec 26, 2017 3:15:50 GMT -5
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Dec 26, 2017 3:22:15 GMT -5
I am also sort of planning on copying the pea breeding information and resources from my blog and rebsie's blog because i know people have found those pictures and genetics info useful in the past. So why not copy it over along with the pea database.
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Post by philagardener on Dec 26, 2017 8:19:43 GMT -5
Great way to add a standardized look and have useful comparative information. It might be better to have generic entries for replacement; specific-sounding info might wind up in entries if not replaced (the example page itself draws from several sources), and that would be confusing. I now know how to move a page. Is there a straightforward way to duplicate the Example Page before moving; otherwise it looks like the original copy moves? Or would one need to copy and paste the content to a new page at a different location before modifying any text (that's less user friendly)? Sorry for all the questions, but is there any way to search the wiki on a field, like height, and display a list of varieties that is either ranked or fit a criterion?
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Post by philagardener on Dec 26, 2017 8:23:16 GMT -5
i added flower photos of Golden Sweet. To be quick i just copied Rebsie's photos from her blog. I made sure to give her credit when i uploaded them in the photo comments. I will have to dig through my old photos to see if i have any flower photos of golden sweet. I used my photos for tendrils and pods. one thing i'd like to figure out is how to organize the photos more side by side like in a cube formation rather than from top to bottom. I know you can use a frame and or thumb to do that but it's still kinda confusing. To what extent is normal html admissible in the wiki's pages? For example, we might use an html table to grid images (a question you raised before). I just did this on the example page for the parsley pea image (just using the same image 4 times). I think it will be rendered properly by web browsers, but would be glad to hear if this is a problem, or doesn't show properly for anyone. When you edit that part of the page, you see a little html base code but it seems pretty straightforward where to place each image.
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